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Official Fire McHale Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FTW Rockets FTW, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. ktbballplaya

    ktbballplaya Member

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    I'm glad we got the win, but why is it people can only express there frustration after loses?
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    I hope we win a championship "despite" McHale.

    It will be so infuriating.
     
  3. Progs

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    Lucky we were playing a middle of the pack team instead of a top one or we would have lost. McHale is something else. How can you not have your 2nd best offensive weapon in the game when your 1st is getting doubled. Ridiculous.
     
  4. jordnnnn

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    I felt they handled the double decently. We got plenty of open corner 3s when the Bucks did it and that's #2 on any teams list for shots they are looking for on offense. We didn't make many of them, but we were getting the shot all teams strive to get.

    As far as Dmo getting in late, I think it's a 50/50 call. Brewer and Smith were the only 2 rebounding out there and you never know who is going to come out ahead when there are weird matchups.

    We won the game. I don't recall teams going to this tactic very often and maybe now that a team has proven they will do it for long stretches of time the Rockets will work some better counters, but again it's hard to argue with wide open corner 3s.
     
  5. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

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    What's our record without Howard?
     
  6. ktbballplaya

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    I look at more than wins and losses. How we win and how we lose are important to me because that allows me the FAN to have confidence in this team. I can take a lost in the in the playoffs if we utilize our players right and maximize our talent the right way. With the way Mchale is coaching this team currently it's going to be frustrating.
     
  7. larsv8

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    Sorry but this is a you having a temper tantrum problem, not a Rocket's having a coach problem.
     
  8. J Sizzle

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    McHale isn't as bad as the haters say, but man...these 4th quarter collapses are painful. He makes no adjustments and it's almost a certainty that we'll blow the big lead.
     
  9. Misigns

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    Yeah, I hope we win a playoff series with his championship experience...
     
  10. Downtown Sniper

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    Let me answer you with a question of my own.

    What's our record with James Harden being the best player in the League?

    Sorry, that is a well thought out response. But again, makes no sense.

    This is a long standing problem with this coach. I wish I could just easily overlook it.

    Unfortunately I cant because I understand basketball.
     
  11. ROXTXIA

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    Still defending McHale? I swear you two are related.
     
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  12. baubo

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    The reason why coaches are so easily blamed, and this isn't just a Rockets thing, is because fans can basically separate successful and failure parts of a team and somehow believe that "makes sense."

    Harden becoming an MVP - McHale gets no credit.
    DMo becoming a significant player - McHale gets no credit.
    Rockets a top defense - McHale gets no credit.

    Rockets hanging on to beat a pretty good team - McHale gets all the blame.

    The reason why I think fans who just mindlessly blame coaches for any failure, perceived or real, is because of the above. Rather than take a coach for his accomplishments as a whole, simply point out all the bad things and ignore all the good things. No one would try using this type of logic in real life, but when it comes to being an armchair GM, it's the preferred strategy.
     
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  13. thedude077

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    They're not a top defensive team anymore. They were in the the first half of the season but their defense just struggled as the season when on.
     
  14. larsv8

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    I am not defending McHale. I could care less about McHale. Heck I was a proponent of bringing in George Karl in the offseason.

    What I am trying to do is save these dumbass fans from themselves. I have been here long enough to see the same r****ded pattern over and over and over and over and over.

    Fan sees something they don't like, looks for someone to blame, blames the coach, demands new coach, new coach comes, Fan sees something they don't like, looks for someone to blame, blames the coach, demands new coach, new coach comes, rinse and repeat.

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    Then my favorite part is that they start pining for old coaches to come back.

    Its a cycle of ****ing stupidity.
     
  15. baubo

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    We are currently 3rd in defense. We have been basically top-3 for most of the year. When a coach is being blamed for things that aren't even true, you know it's just hate.
     
  16. meadowlark

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    Good points and let me add a couple:

    Playing a significant portion of the season with an injured D12-- McHale gets no credit for 3rd in the West playing without the top center

    Playing a significant portion of the season without TJ---McHale gets no credit for 3rd in the West playing without the starting 4

    Seamlessly bringing in Brewer and Josh with no chemistry problems---McHale gets zero credit.

    Playing without a starting caliber PG and still 3rd in the West--- McHale gets no credit.


    Brewer and Josh were considered failures by their previous teams and McHale has helped both to rejuvenate their careers. That is why he is considered a players coach...and average fans don't see the value in that.
     
  17. Beemers Rule

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    I believe it is 13-5. Approximately what it is without Howard. Without putting it in a calculator. LOL.
     
  18. vlaurelio

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    Mchale actually doing a good job considering pbev and harden are the only starters from last year who are playing right now and they probably are the only 2 rockets from 2 years ago

    Everyone are new. Ariza brewer terry jsmith kpap Dorsey are all new. Brewer and jsmith in the middle of the season. D12 out and Joey fn Dorsey is our starting center

    GS Memphis Portland clippers and SA have their core playing at least 3 years together

    Even atl Washington and to from the east
     
  19. Beemers Rule

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    I do agree. Having watched most of the Rockets home games in person, it seems like they are doing just fine. All of those injuries!
     
  20. Htownballer38

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    That's how a few fans get down in the GARM. I can just imagine how they were when we were stuck in mediocrity all those years. 3rd in the West and Ole Mchale gets no credit. Wow
     

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