What's the going price for Dragic by the trade deadline?

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The Rockets have 14/1 odds for winning the title according to Bovada, tied for 6th highest on the list. I am pretty sure that this team is far from the point where "extra talent brings depreciated value."

They can very much use a second perimeter playmaker. Right now, the offense dies whenever Harden sits even if you leave Dwight on the floor. You want to have another option to go to so you don't wear Harden out by April and so you can better exploit matchups and take advantage of closeouts.

 

I think you're assuming teams would just get exactly to the tax line and then spend the full Non-Taxpayer MLE at that point.

A team could be, for example, $3 million below the luxury tax before spending the full Non-Taxpayer MLE. That would put the team above the tax but below the apron. That is permitted.

Also, more often than not, teams use Bird rights to re-sign their own free agents before spending the MLE. Because how close to the tax/apron a team is will determine which type of MLE a team can use, teams tend to see how high the rest of their team salary gets before making a final decision on which MLE to use. But teams certainly could spend the Taxpayer MLE early in the summer without (much) regard to the rest of team salary.

 

My post was in response to someone who said you can use the full MLE and then re-sign your own players to any amount. I simply stated that it didn't matter whether you re-sign your own players first, or sign someone with the MLE first.

In the scenario you painted, and I bolded, if the Rockets had not re-signed Dragic at that point (hypothetically), they cannot re-sign him for the max because that would put them over the Apron (Dragic's max - his caphold I believe is roughly $7mil). Hence, signing someone else with the MLE did not allow the Rockets to loophole around the Tax Apron. Just as had the team re-signed Dragic first to put them over the tax, they wouldn't be able to spend the full MLE on another player.

Therefore, the order in which the team signs players is irrelevant here. At least from my understanding.

 

How many teams have a need at PG? How many are willing to deal with the resigning risk?

Let's see Miami, LA Lakers, Sixers, Knicks, maybe Brooklyn and us.

Almost all of the contending teams have a solid to star PG and most of the rebuilding teams have young guys like Smart and Payton.

Then Reggie Jackson, Ty Lawson and others are also on the market.

In summation Phoenix may not get as much as they think just like Boston did not for Rondo.

 

If we don't get dragic, lawson, knight or Jennings I would go ahead and say were still just a ok team adding lower level backup guards like mo and Jackson. We need a prime time player and even possibly snag a back up C while were at it

 

We can also offer dmo. Which would be heart aching but I have a feeling we could land goran without giving up dmo. But I would give up dmo for Jennings, lawson or knight.

 

I thought Jennings was done?

 

Jennings has a
Blown acl

 

Oh that's a bummer.

 

It's actually a torn achilles.

 

Hard to say. Dragic would be awesome on our team. A 3 guard rotation of Harden, Dragic and Bev would be awesome. Phoenix is in a tough spot. If they want to be competitive, they really can't afford to spend as much money in the PG spot as they would need to in order to keep Dragic. So it makes sense that we would sit around and speculate about them trading him away at the deadline instead of losing him for nothing.


Just my personal opinion- when Phoenix traded for Brandan Wright, that was an indication that they are going all in for this season. They desperately want to make the playoffs this year, even if it means that they are a one and done and they will lose Dragic for nothing in the offseason. They are about a game and a half ahead of NOP right now, and barring a major collapse in the next couple of weeks before the deadline, they won't have Dragic available unless it was something that would undeniably make them better right now. Which I don't think we can offer.



I hope I'm wrong. I have been pulling against Phoenix for several weeks hoping that they would fall out of the playoff race. But the way things are right now, I don't see a trade for Dragic happening.

 

Yeah. I'm sure he's torn up that he has Harden instead

 

they have no reason to trade him.

1) he's helping lead them into the playoffs. they wont sell him for future picks and miss the playoffs this year. makes no sense.

2) he hasn't said that he wont resign. he hasn't said that he's unhappy. they have as good a chance to sign him as anyone this summer. again, why trade him? doesn't make sense.

 

What all in means, and what you seem to think it means differs greatly, i can assure you of that. Brandan Wright for 2 second round picks wasn't an all in move, any more than Corey Brewer was for us. Now if they stuck their lakers pick, their own pick and one or two of their own players and gone for it, that would have been going all in.

 

Jones, Nola pick n filler

 

They already have the Morris twins. Not sure what they would do with Jones.

 

Well, they're certainly not re-signing both the twins.

 

Who knows what Phx does - you can never plan on what stupid people may do.... I call them stupid because they have dumped an inordinate amount of payroll and roster spots into their backcourt, while overspending on a mediocre front court...
Meanwhile Tyler Ennis they supposedly love - but can get no significant court time... horribly lopsided roster with most being on multi year deals....

Not to mention, if they think their time as presently constructed has any chance of doing anyting in the playoffs (IF they made the playoffs) - then they are stupider still....