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Republican Candidates for 2016

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by chrispbrown, May 17, 2013.

  1. Space Ghost

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    Are you telling me a degree sets a person apart from a person w/out a degree simply for having one?

    In the event you have forgotten, the Constitution sets the stipulations for presidency, not a bunch of bureaucrats. And the POTUS doesn't lead the country like a tyrant ... he is ~suppose~ to surround himself with more intelligent people (versus ideologists)

    Given the typical liberal arrogance, its not surprising that you would automatically segregate certain groups into a lower class not deemed worthy of leadership.
     
  2. HTown_DieHard

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    Yes.
    Yes.
    F**k NO.
     
  3. mc mark

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    Of course it does. Silly boy. Why do you think we acquire them then? If not to set yourself apart?

    Typical conservative ignorance; believing imbeciles can run government.
     
  4. Space Ghost

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    Case in point. You have a degree. While you are certainly set apart from most of the other toxic sheep, it certainly has nothing to do with your degree.

    Who do you think has been running this government for the last few decades? And again, mcmark fails.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    You are right... **** it... Just stay in a holiday in express over night and become a doctor or a lawyer or a damn president. Who needs higher education anyways. Ivory Tower elitists. What do they know. Calculus has that liberal bias doesn't it. College professors be like "The derivative of x^2 is Obama is da bomb".
     
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  6. fchowd0311

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    More competent individuals than your average high school graduate.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    and now this post explains quite a bit.
     
  8. mc mark

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    do I?
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    Not worth it's own thread so posting this here.

    Of course though Mike Huckabee has friends who are gay.
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/01/politics/huckabee-gay-marriage/

    Huckabee compares being gay to drinking, swearing

    Washington (CNN)Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee says expecting Christians to accept same-sex marriage is "like asking someone who's Jewish to start serving bacon-wrapped shrimp in their deli."

    He also called homosexuality part of a lifestyle, like drinking and swearing.

    The former Arkansas governor, winner of the 2008 Iowa caucuses and likely 2016 contender's comments came during an appearance Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union," as he defended an excerpt from his new book in which he says he has friends and associates who are gay.

    "People can be my friends who have lifestyles that are not necessarily my lifestyle. I don't shut people out of my circle or out of my life because they have a different point of view," Huckabee told CNN's Dana Bash, while deflecting a question about whether he believes being gay is a choice.

    "I don't drink alcohol, but gosh -- a lot of my friends, maybe most of them, do. You know, I don't use profanity, but believe me, I've got a lot of friends who do. Some people really like classical music and ballet and opera -- it's not my cup of tea," Huckabee said.

    He also offered a nod to legislation that some conservatives have advocated on the national and state levels protecting businesses from discrimination claims for adhering to their owners' religious views.

    "I'd like to think that there's room in America for people who have different points of view without screaming and shouting and wanting to shut their businesses down," he said. "What worries me in this new environment we're in, it's not just that someone might disagree, they don't want to argue with me, even take a different point of view. They want to close someone's business down."

    Huckabee pointed to President Barack Obama's 2008 opposition to same-sex marriage, but said there's no chance he'll ever drop his opposition to gay marriage.

    "This is not just a political issue. It is a biblical issue. And as a biblical issue -- unless I get a new version of the scriptures, it's really not my place to say, OK, I'm just going to evolve," Huckabee said.

    "It's like asking someone who's Jewish to start serving bacon-wrapped shrimp in their deli. We don't want to do that -- I mean, we're not going to do that. Or like asking a Muslim to serve up something that is offensive to him, or to have dogs in his backyard," he said. "We're so sensitive to make sure we don't offend certain religions, but then we act like Christians can't have the convictions that they've had for 2,000 years."
     
  10. justtxyank

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    I'm not gay so take this with a grain of salt...

    I support gay marriage, but take no offense to what Huckabee just said. I think that's a very reasonable position for a Christian to take. He's basically saying that he believes it's a choice, it's one he wouldn't make, but he's not going to discriminate against them. I also like how the article mentions the comparison to drinking or swearing but not the comparisons to opera or classical music that he made.

    I don't agree with him that it is a choice, but I don't think there is definitive science on this and I think he staked out a reasonable middle ground for a social conservative.
     
  11. ipaman

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    i didn't know jews were trying to ban bacon wrapped shrimp, the outrage!!!

    i give huckabee credit, i thought he was at a certain level but he took far beyond what i thought capable. i'm talking about stupid btw...
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    The Republican field so far is pretty weak IMO. Establishment Republicans would never support someone like Rand Paul because he's really a Libertarian at heart. Chris Christie, Mike Huckabee, and Jeb Bush are weak enough candidates to give even Hillary Clinton a chance at winning the presidency. There's still a lot of time, but the field is underwhelming.
     
  13. justtxyank

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    Huckabee is not a viable candidate. He may not even play in Iowa anymore and he's lost a lot of the donors that helped him the last time he ran.

    Jeb Bush would be a strong national campaign candidate without the name Bush, but I'm really not sure he can overcome that.

    Christie is not viable to me.

    Rand Paul's libertarian streak is probably going to sink him.

    Ted Cruz is all kinds of crazy.

    The two candidates I think would have the best chance in a primary of getting a good cross between establishment and crazies are Scott Walker and John Kasich. I'm not sure either has enough sizzle to run a national campaign. Of the two I think Kasich probably has the best story to tell but I'm not sure he'd have enough financial backing to give a real run.

    The rest of the pool of potentials like John Thune (like him, but he won't run) and Mike Pence (no sizzle and no money) just don't bring enough punching power to the fight to make it worth it in my opinion.

    I expect Hilary Clinton to be the next president by forfeit.
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    Boo. :(
     
  15. NewRoxFan

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    But by not allowing them the ability to get married... isn't he discriminating against them?
     
  16. LosPollosHermanos

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    I like Rand, but his interview the other day made him come across as a pompous *******.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm sure he doesn't think so. It all comes down to how you define marriage. I'd imagine a Baptist preacher would define it as being something specifically between a man and a woman. If you accept that definition (which neither I or the courts accept), it's not "marriage" if it's between members of the same sex.

    Anyway, this stupid issue is one of the many reasons why Huckabee wouldn't stand a chance in a national election.
     
  18. Rocketman95

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    His analogy still fails because Jews aren't trying to make laws stopping non-Jews from eating bacon-wrapped shrimp.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Oh, I wasn't really defending him, just stating what he probably thinks. Personally, I think he's wrong and think that gay marriage is a non-issue....then again, I'm not a Baptist preacher or a Republican.
     
  20. Dubious

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    K Street; where law degrees ands MBA's don't even count unless they are from top 5 schools.
     

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