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Super Bowl XLIX: Seattle Seahawks vs. New England Patriots

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by J.R., Jan 18, 2015.

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Super Bowl XLIX: Seahawks or Patriots?

Poll closed Jan 31, 2015.
  1. Seahawks

    54.8%
  2. Patriots

    45.2%
  1. Hustle Town

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    Just don't respond or explain yourself to trolls
     
  2. Shaud

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    What a horrible reasoning. Makes the call look even worse.
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    Seattle shouldn't have even been in that game in the first place. What a fluke win over Green Bay.

    Then Seattle's luck was extended with that silly catch from Kearse and a couple of uncharacteristic Brady INTs.

    Their luck ran out when Wilson threw the interception. It was a bad pass and of course a bad call. Seattle's formula for success on offense has always been Lynch, Lynch, Lynch and then ask Russell Wilson to make a few plays since the defense is so keyed into the run. Obviously should have gone with Lynch on a play from the 1 yard line.
     
  4. ferrari77

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    Yes if he realized the play at the particular down wasn't a particularly good idea. Yes if he realized at the LOS that he was seeing 1 too many DB's on the field at the goal-line.

    Otherwise meh, bad playcall and Belichick AND Patricio get the credit and applause for tricking the Seahawks.
     
  5. ferrari77

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    Everyone that played the Lions, the team that beat the Lions, the team that beat the team that beat the Lions and the team that beat the team that beat the team that beat the Lions ran out of luck at the end.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    They sure did. And based on Carroll's explanation, I'm sure it was relayed to Wilson that he could throw away that play if he has to.

    Knowing how conservative Wilson usually is, he should have also recognized the situation and knew he didn't have to do anything on that play.

    Again, they all deserve equal blame from the coaches to the Wilson.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    Not horrible if you replayed the play. Bellichick outfoxed him with the lineup on the field. Seattle had some confusion prior to lining up on the last play. Seattle didn't want to waste the TO b/c it was their only time out left. Okayed the call that this play would most likely amounted to nothing. Regrouped with 2 more downs and a time out.

    If Seattle had an extra time out, I'm sure they would have used it there. They weren't ready for that play at all. Hence, Wilson should have thrown it away.
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    oh, one more thing. The fact that Seattle basically ended the game in a fist fight was disgusting. Learn how to play the game with respect, fools.
     
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  9. Shaud

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    With 30 seconds left in the 4th of course he felt like he had to make a play. In the 4th qt with 30 seconds left you don't call a play that you think won't succeed, what is the point in calling a play you think won't succeed then. So basically Pete Carroll treated the 4th QT like it was the 2nd QT.
     
  10. tie22fighter

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    Wow, the more I looked at the picture, the worse the throw looked.

    The QB was under no pressure, there was no rusher close to him. Both the defender and the receiver are in his line of sight.

    The defender completely sold out on the receiver slant play. The defender had to run around the pick that he was in no position to contest the pass except at one point. Unfortunately, for Seattle, it happened to be the point the QB throw to.

    If Wilson had passed a little earlier, or a little to the right, it would have been a TD. Or he could just throw it away.

    I have no doubt that if the same thing happened 100 times, Wilson would have make the right decision 99 times.

    In retrospect, it was not a great defense. It was not like the defender covered the whole route. Actually, the receiver was open the whole route except at one point. If Wilson would just throw a little earlier or throw to the right a little bit, it would had been a TD.
     
  11. t_mac1

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    Seattle ran down the field to close the first half in 29 seconds. 30 seconds is an eternity. We have seen plenty of times late in 4th quarter that QBs will throw balls away to save time (like spiking the ball to waste a down but save time).

    Carroll knew that. They were only 1 yard away. Like he explained, which makes sense if you re-watch the play, that it was supposed to be a wasted play. Seattle was confused prior to the snap. A timeout should have been called prior to that play in a perfect world. I guess he wanted to save the time out.
     
  12. RedRedemption

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    Yeah, I agree.
    I understand the frustration, but direct that at the coach for the dumb playcall and Wilson for not calling an audible or throwing the ball away. The Patriots had nothing to do with this loss at all other than the interception at the end, which would not have happened if the Seahawks ran the ball.

    The Seahawks were 100% in control of their own destiny, so fist fight not justified.
     
  13. Nook

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    Uhh no the defense was very good, and the DB was actually at the goaline before the receiver. It was defended perfectly.. Which makes sense because the Pats had an extra DB. Wilson telegraphed the pass... But ultimately the Seahawks coaches called a pass play between the tackles, that is a risky play, an unnecessarily risk play. The Seahawks could have called a throw outside or spiked the ball. They can say what they want, but they thought they would possibly catch the Pats stacking the line... Nope.
     
  14. KingCheetah

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    Apparently Wilson didn't pray hard enough before this game.
     
  15. BigggReddd

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    Damned Ravens and close losses...:mad:
    Love ya Keenum :p
     
  16. chow_yun_fat

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    Was that int pass interference? He got hit before he could catch the ball. Depending on the angle you're looking from, it looks like a easy/clean int. On one angle, you could see him get hit and the momentum stopped him from getting to the ball, turning it into the int.
     
  17. cardpire

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    exactly what i said earlier in the thread.

    but you are the only person other than me who i've heard even mention that, so i assume we're wrong. seemed like a PI to me though.
     
  18. RedRedemption

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    Defender was playing the ball and got to it first. I don't know. That doesn't seem like a pass interference to me.
     
  19. arkoe

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    Wonder if Butler is still crying.
     
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    Actions that do not constitute pass interference include but are not limited to:

    (a) Incidental contact by a defender’s hands, arms, or body when both players are competing for the ball, or neither player is looking for the ball. If there is any question whether contact is incidental, the ruling shall be no interference.

    (b) Inadvertent tangling of feet when both players are playing the ball or neither player is playing the ball.

    (c) Contact that would normally be considered pass interference, but the pass is clearly uncatchable by the involved players.

    (d) Laying a hand on a receiver that does not restrict the receiver in an attempt to make a play on the ball.

    (e) Contact by a defender who has gained position on a receiver in an attempt to catch the ball.
     

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