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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by SWTsig, Jun 2, 2008.

  1. glad_ken

    glad_ken Member

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    The article below says it will take years to resolve that case.

    http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...cisco-lawsuit-risk/?mod=yahoobarrons&ru=yahoo

    Cisco filed suit against Arista on December 5th in the Federal District Court for the Northern District of California, alleging infringement of 14 patents.

    Bracelin writes that Cisco’s been “a fierce competitor” for more than three years, “as shown by aggressive discounting in head-to-head deals with Arista,” and it has taken “the next battle to the courts in an effort to slow Arista’s share gains.”

    Bracelin compares this suit to Cisco’s previous suit against China’s Huawei, and also a suit by Juniper Networks (JNPR) against security vendor Palo Alto Networks (PANW):

    Cisco’s lawsuit against Huawei, filed in 2003, was not ultimately successful in slowing share losses, nor was Juniper’s lawsuit against Palo Alto Networks. Nonetheless, the Huawei lawsuit, aggressive discounting by Cisco and offensive commentary from Cisco’s leadership directed at Arista all point to an increasingly competitive battle between Arista Networks and Cisco emerging for 2015.

    He writes that the lesson from both cases is that it takes years for these things to resolve themselves:
     
  2. Major

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    It's strange because he was 100% a technicals trader and seemed pretty good at what he did. Except on Apple, which seemed to be completely an emotional thing for him.
     
  3. Stack24

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    Any suggestions on some moderate ETF's to dump some extra savings and money into so I don't have to worry about it and let it grow? This is for my sister that wants to take all her bonus and savings and spread it out through some different ETF's and stuff to make a fund for herself.

    Thanks
     
  4. paulnhbtx

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    Well Shake shack exploded this AM was up 145% more than the 21.00 IPO. I wanted to buy like 5k worth of it but my account was telling me that I had to wait.. question.. how were people able to buy it at 21.00 a share?
     
  5. Stack24

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    A lot of time they have to be selected to get an ipo or be part of certain brokerage houses. Very simple understanding. I am sure people have more detailed answers. I am gonna pick up a few shares when the time comes that I can to hold for long term.
     
  6. paulnhbtx

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    thanks..

    http://www.investopedia.com/university/ipo/ipo1.asp

    it sure would have been nice to get in on the IPO and double up..
     
  7. Ron from the G

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    Cha ching!
     
  8. Ron from the G

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    I'm getting short again for a swing.
     
  9. Ron from the G

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    Shorting crude here also with a mental stop of above 55. Looking for a swing.
     
  10. peleincubus

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    yeah he thought the company was hopeless from that point on.
     
  11. Ron from the G

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    Ok guys Crude 45-54 range over the next month I think will be an ATM machine. Sell 52 area, buy 45 area, rinse and repeat until it doesn't work any longer. 1-1.50 stop range depending on the trade.
     
  12. MadMax

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    I hope you're right...hopefully that means a bottom for the foreseeable future.
     
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    I'm currently not invested in anything oil&gas. What's my best bet to get some exposure?
     
  14. mikus

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    I'm actually doing a similar thing with UVXY. I buy it when it's 27 or lower, wait for it to go up past 30 and sell. Rinse and repeat. I don't have the guts to try shorting it when it's over 30, but you could, though if the big one hit during a short, you'd eat it pretty hard, whereas when I buy at $26, I'm not worried that it will stay down there too long.

    I've ridden multiple cycles of this since December, and crazily made 100% return on the amount I started with, but I made about half of it in one cycle when I bought it at $20 before Christmas and sold it at $31. If the market drops tomorrow, and UVXY goes up past $30, I'll sell again for another ~15% profit.

    This isn't really investing though, it's like I'm playing Baccarat in Vegas.
     
  15. CoolGuy

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    How do you buy crude? Is there a specific ETF you buy?

    Also, whats the best way to invest in oil for the long term if we believe oil has reached near bottom?

    Thanks!
     
  16. glad_ken

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    I see that UVXY is a leveraged futures volatility ETF. Why is it down so much today even though the market is highly volatile?
     
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    uvxy is short term futures on the VIX. market went up; vix went down.. uvxy went down.
     
  20. benchmoochie

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    USO is what I trade for the oil exposure. I was trading the feb 19 calls a month ago, but I have since stopped that given oil hasn' t hit a perceived bottom..more of a trading channel. I was looking for a violent v shap snap back but we haven't gotten that yet.
     

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