I'd tend to agree but I don't think Morey would, he wants that third star. We would have to actually swap Canaan for Shved or do Kostas instead of DMO to make salary match. Love is our most realistic option as a third star, as he just doesn't seem to fit with LeBron and he can walk next season, which If I were him I probably would. We would put a hole at SF with Ariza gone but I believe Brewer could start and Papa (if kept) could play back up. If the pieces out were Shved, DMO and Ariza with the NOP pick. We would most likely need to move Jones at that point for a backup center or another playmaker at the 1 or 2. Beverly/Canaan Harden / Terry/ Canaan Brewer/ Kostas Love/ Jones / Smith Howard / Dorsey
I doubt Cleveland would trade Love for NOP 1st and Ariza. That would mean they traded Wiggins and Bennett (two number one picks) for a handful of losses, Ariza, and a mid tier pick. Even if this would actually benefit them, they won't do it.
Yea probably not going to happen but it would make sense for both sides to do it. Keeping Wiggins would have made the most sense for Cleveland in hindsight, but that is another story completely. It actually kind of reminds me of our trade for Battier. It is less sexy but it made sense at the time for a team trying to contend.
No way Cleveland gives up on Love before the end of the season. Is there anyone who honestly believes that the Cavs would give their core and new coach just over half a season to mesh before they ship a key cog out? There's absolutely ZERO percent chance that Love is moved this season. None. And it's 100% nonsensical buffoonery to suggest otherwise.
When I watch DMO...i really do not see a limit to his potential. He plays with great hustle, has a good work ethic, understand defensive concepts, can pass, can dribble a bit, and has some of the leagues best post moves. Oh and did i mention he has the one thing that cant be taught? Size. I honestly wouldnt make the love move with him. Brings me flashbacks of the horry for barkley trade.
I've never really thought that said what everyone thinks it said. Sure, he could stay on his current contract for another year and sign a huge 5 year contract in 2016. Or he could exercise his option, and sign a 2 year deal with a PO 2nd year and opt out in 2016 to sign a big 5 year contract. I think the main take away from that article is that he has his options open, but is not planning to explore free agency. The value of his player option is the ability to put pressure on the Cavs if it's necessary. Who knows what is being said in the background?
So two things got me thinking. Unhappiness outside texas. And comparison with smith. Smith never played for us or in texas. We did however recruit smith and failed to sign him, from what I am told multiple of times. What if the homecoming is texas native Chris Bosh?
The Love for Bosh move actually would make a ton of sense even though it would never happen. Irving for Wade would be a pretty un-wise move on Cleveland's part. Wade has maybe 2 years left in the league to play at a high level, and that's with reduced minutes & rest restrictions. The Irving/Lebron combo they MUST make work. Kevin Love is a great talent but what he does on the court for them is replaceable eventually if need-be. Still its worth a shot for them to see if they can get an expanded role for him in the next year or so with some tinkering. The nice thing about keeping Love though, is he acts as superstar insurance if Lebron especially goes down with an injury. You can integrate more sets that put him in spots to create for your offense. You can't do that with a Channing Frye or Ryan Anderson. So yes, the Love for Bosh move actually makes a ton of sense, but its not going to happen for many reasons. Bosh to a team like Houston might actually be a possibility as early as next year though. But not sure if Bosh is going to decline in a year or two, and become a bad value contract. TBD.
I never believed OKC would really trade Harden either, but they did. I don't think a deal for Love will have any rumors preceding it. There's no way the Cavs would want that public before it actually happened. Lucky enough, the Rockets are one of the few teams that can keep a secret. IF it did happen, there would be a Woj tweet to the effect of "Cavaliers in advanced talks to trade Kevin Love to Houston". I'm not saying it's likely, but it is possible. All it takes is Lebron saying "I want him gone", Love saying "I want to be gone", and Houston saying "I'm willing to pay".
The only pressure Love can put on the Cavs is to get better sets put in to suit his skills, or get more touches. The idea of Love going to MGMT and saying I'm going to LA this Summer would only make them laugh. If Love goes to MGMT and says "trade me because I'm going to maybe opt out", his only real option for UFA to use as leverage would be the Lakers, and the Lakers have so little assets to trade that it would actually make more sense for the Cav's to just rent Love for the rest of the season, and see if he's bluffing this Summer. With that being in mind, I can already see your rebuttal being "That's when the Rockets come in play as another option to say trade me to the Rockets or I'm going to LA". That's definitely going to be called as a bluff, and again.. the Rockets don't really have (or wont offer) what is needed to compete with a short term Love rental/July2015 gamble, and there is virtually no way they will be seen as a free agency threat. You need that free agency threat in place to be a player in leverage trades. A short term Love rental/July 2015 gamble has more value for THEIR TEAM than what they are going to get for Love. I think you're thinking too much like a team that is just trying to play the asset game. I don't see Cleveland operating this way when they have Lebron James on a 2 year contract in his prime. I think the league learned alot after the Harden trade. That was more of an aberration than a new normal. Presti made the mistake of thinking his superstars were young enough and lock up for long enough to replace Harden eventually and still be fine. Big mistake.
There are zero relevant parallels between Harden's situation back in OKC and Love's currently in Cleveland. The Cavs are half a season into their Lebron/Love/Irving experiment. Lebron has missed stretches due to injuries. Brand new coach. Frontcourt injuries. The list goes on with issues that can equate to their lackluster start. They're no where close to even approaching their potential. Lebron isn't going to say "I want Love gone" because he knows how a championship team is built, and realizes that it doesn't happen in half a season. Love isn't going to say "I want to be gone" because... Why would he? This is the first winning situation he's ever been in during his professional career. Is he really going to run away from that after half a season? If you can't make it work with Lebron James, then there aren't many other players out there that can put you in a better situation. Cleveland trading Love this season is possible, about as possible as Houston trading DH or NY trading Melo.
You do realize that Morey has NEVER gone through a February trade deadline without making some sort of trade right? Saying the Rockets will stand pat is like a weatherman saying the Rocky Mountains wont get snow. At the very least Morey will do something with the Shved/Papanikolaou contracts. Hard to see Morey not making a move of some sort.
Sure. With Howard and Harden in their prime its now time to stand pat and waste this golden opportunity to make a serious run at a championship. I see Morey as going all in at the deadline for the 3rd piece, now is the time to put metal to the pedal.
miami is not trading wade that's their franchise player a player meant to play his entire career for the team only
