NFL probing Patriots' possible use of deflated balls during AFC Championship

Yeah they shouldn't be compared, one is cheating, one is just being an *******.

 

I agree....

They should take the Elway led Super Bowls away from them because their HC told the OL to cover themselves in vasoline, in direct violation of the NFL rules.... then the Broncos were caught violating the CBA and cap rules.... that makes them a two time offender! Wait... they also were fined and lost a draft pick concerning deferred payments to John Elway....

Shula should have been banned too..... many years ago the NFL found that he was a cheater and docket his Dolphins a #1 pick.

The Niners too.... they were found to have purposely violated the salary cap back in their glory days.... take that SB away from Young and the Niners...

The Jets too, when they repeatedly taped opposing team practices after Spygate.

Don't forget the Cowboys, that recently were fined and punished for violating the signing bonus clause in the CBA.

Those are just off the top of my head.

 

Never said they should take a Super Bowl (that they haven't won) away from them.

I'm just saying. In the typical NFL, especially nowadays, if a player breaks rules blatantly, they often get suspended. But of course, we are talking about Tom Brady, the guy they create rules around, not the guy who breaks them.

 

Classic apples and oranges dumbassery right here, folks.

 

Tom Brady is a freakin cheater... Those are his balls and he's the one that tells the equipment personnel how to handle his balls. He's probably been having this tomfoolery going on with his balls for his entire career.

 

It's a shame Brady will be associated with cheating for all of time. In the greatest qb ever conversations someone will inevitably bring up cheating in a counter argument. Belechik is responsible for a lot of the good in his reputation but these incidents will tarnish or put an * by his accomplishments to many. He's in the top tier if not the best qb this league has ever seen and Belechik is one of the greatest coaches ever.

The truth is, it's not Belechik's fault. There are many examples of teams bending the rules on the regular. Unfortunately, it's just part of football at this point, so that falls squarely back on Roger Goodell imo. Too bad the media is scared to put the blame where it belongs.

 

It's really not, rules are rules for a reason and they are broken for a reason. If you don't mind people cheating, that's fine, but you'll have to understand that most won't agree.

 

Whether meant or not, this post is hilarious!

 

There should be some response
Who know how long it has been going on

Rocket River

 

usually, when i'm caught cheating, my balls tend to be very inflated.

 

Report: Ravens tipped off Colts about deflated balls

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Rumor from <a href="https://twitter.com/seniorbowl">@seniorbowl</a> (don't know if true), small group of team exec's saying Patriots will lose 2nd Rd Pick for &quot;deflated ball scandal.&quot;</p>&mdash; Russell Lande (@RUSSLANDE) <a href="https://twitter.com/RUSSLANDE/status/558099478734196737">January 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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So for all the people that said it doesn't matter because the Patriots would have won anyway, does this change your opinion? Presumably, they did the same in the Baltimore game, and that very well could have changed the outcome there.

 

I would argue from a game integrity perspective, this is worse (obviously not from a health or player safety view). Bounties cause people to hit harder, but there's at least a mechanism to penalize for that (late hits, unnecessary roughness, roughing the QB). There is no in-game penalty for what the Patriots did, and yet it can affect the outcome (if it doesn't help them, there would be no reason to do it).

This is a lot like a golfer using a non-regulation golf ball or club. The impact is subtle, but a few yards here or there can make a huge difference.

 

That article references that other coaches and owners are sick of their BS. Yes, other teams have cheated throughout the years and it tarnishes the game and the league.

However it seems like the Pats are the biggest violators today.

 

Man that's it. just the 2nd rounder. man they getting off easy. I would take the win from NE and given to Colts. but since you cant do that. what i would do is Fine of 750K to Owner and 250K to BB. and take 1st & 2nd rounders for next 2-3 years. I know this punishment is too much but it seems like an statement needs to be made.

 

I'm serious. I know Belichick has a shady past. But every man is responsible for his own balls and accusing Belichick of having his hands on Brady's balls is ridiculous. Especially when Brady is already on record for saying he likes deflated balls. Lol...

I always thought of Brady as an all time great. Now my opinion has changed.

 

[rQUOTEr]Belichick:

“When I came in Monday morning I was shocked to learn of the news reports about the footballs. I had no knowledge whatsoever of this situation until Monday morning. I’ve learned a lot more about this process in the last three days than I knew — or had talked about — in the last 40 years that I’ve coached in this league. I had no knowledge of the various steps involved in the game balls, the process that happened between when they were prepared and went to the officials and went to the game, so I’ve learned a lot about that. Obviously, I understand that each team has the opportunity to prepare the balls the way they want, give them to the officials, and the game officials either approve or disapprove the balls, and that really was the end of it for me, until I learned a little bit more about it the last couple days.

“Let me just say that my personal coaching philosophy, my mentality, has always been to make things as difficult as possible for players in practice, and so with regard to footballs, I’m sure that any current or past player of mine would tell you that the balls we practice with are as bad as they can be. Wet, sticky, cold, slippery, whatever. However bad we can make them, I make them. And any time that players complain about the quality of the footballs, I make them worse, and that stops the complaining. So we never use the condition of the footballs as an excuse. We play with whatever, or kick with whatever we have to use, and that’s the way it is. That has never been a priority for me, and I want the players to deal with a harder situation in practice than they’ll ever have to deal with in a game. And maybe that’s part of our whole ball security philosophy.

“I’m trying to coach the team and that’s what I want to do. I think we all know that quarterbacks, kickers, specialists have certain preferences on the footballs. They know a lot more than I do. They’re a lot more sensitive to it than I am. I hear them comment on it from time to time, but I can tell you and they will tell you that there’s never any sympathy whatsoever from me on that subject. Zero. Tom’s personal preferences on his footballs are something that he can talk about in much better detail and information than I could possibly provide.

“I can tell you that in my entire coaching career I have never talked to any player, staff member about football air pressure. That is not a subject that I have ever brought up. To me, the footballs are approved by the league and game officials pre-game, and we play with what’s out there. And that’s the only way that I have ever thought about that.

“I’ve learned about the inflation range situation, obviously, with our footballs being inflated to the twelve and a half pound range, any deflation would then take us under that specification limit. Knowing that now, in the future we will certainly inflate the footballs above that low level to account for any possible change during the game. So as an example, if a ball deflated from 13.2 to 12.9, it wouldn’t matter, but if it deflated from 12.5 to 12.3, it would — as an example. So we will take steps in the future to make sure that we don’t put ourselves in that type of potential situation again.

“The National Football League is investigating the situation. We have cooperated fully, quickly and completely with every request that they have made, continue to be cooperative in any way that we can. I have no explanation for what happened, and that’s what they’re looking into, so I can’t comment on what they’re doing. That’s something that you should talk to them about. Again, my overall knowledge of football specifications, the overall process that happens on game day with the footballs, is very limited. I would say that during the course of the game, I honestly never — it probably has happened on an incomplete pass or something, but I’ve never touched a game ball. That’s not something that I have any familiarity with on that. And again, I was completely and totally unaware of any of this that we’re talking about in the last couple days, until Monday morning. Based on what I knew Sunday night, thinking back on this, which I’ve done several times, I can’t think of anything that I would have done differently, based on what I knew then, based on what I know now. I’ve told you the one change we would make on the initial start level of the football pressure, but that’s really about it.

“It’s unfortunate that this is a story coming off two great playoff victories by our football team and our players, but again we’ve been cooperative with the NFL investigation. We’ll continue to do so, and we’ll turn all our attention, focus on the Seattle Seahawks, a very well-coached, talented, tough football team. We’ve spent the last four days, three days, with our preparations and so forth for the trip. Those are coming to a conclusion, we’re wrapping that up, and we’re starting our preparations today for the Seahawks and practicing through the weekend so we’ll have a good, solid opportunity to get ourselves ready to go before we head down there.

“Again, I have no further comment on the NFL investigation, and I’ve told you all I know about the subject from my perspective. So that’s where we are.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...no-knowledge-whatsoever-about-deflated-balls/[/rQUOTEr]

 

No surprises in Belicheats statements. Cheating 101. If caught...deny deny deny.