If Houston trades Terry, and Terry then gets waived, Houston cannot re-sign him until the one year anniversary of the trade. See Larry Coon's CBA FAQ page, question #65.
This works, although Miami might insist on Donatas Motiejunas, or Terrence Jones, or at least Clint Capela. And Houston should insist on Shawne Williams, a 6'9" 28-year-old minimum salary journeyman. Williams is shooting 42.7% from three-point range this season, which is excellent. Shved cannot be traded until 2/19, which is the day of the trade deadline, so this trade would need to wait.
I like the thinking here... but why would Denver do that? The only thing with real, definitive, long-term value there is DMo. And they kind of have a PF already. I like the idea of DMo + Faried, but it's not like that's going to lead you to the promised land. But I really do like the idea of Phoenix/Denver/Houston trade. Rockets would probably be fine with either Dragic or Lawson, really. Not sure how you make it work, really. If the Nuggets were into truly tanking they might take the above deal if they got further salary relief - meaning somehow Gallinari or Mcgee went away, too. But Rockets/Suns don't have enough salary to make that happen. Suns could add a draft pick? They have the Lakers and TWolves 2015 first rounders, subject to top protections. If I'm the Suns, I'd do that. For one, Lawson has been a more consistently good player. Goran has been really good of late, but is still having a down year compared to last. For two, he's a FA, who is going to ask for a max contract. It's likely SOMEONE will give that to him. Either the Suns know they will as well, or they have to get something back in return. Dragic, Plumlee AND the Lakers pick they own, which is top 5 protected anyway (Lakers in 4th right now, probably not going to get much better, talking about shutting down Kobe, they NEED the pick, etc.) for Ty Lawson locked up at a decent non-max contract for two more years... not bad. They would have real backcourt defense issues, but it's a solid return. Still not sure the Nuggets bite, but you never know...
Umm. The phrase "anything can happen" stops at the idea of wade being traded. It is actually an impossibility for Riley to trade Wade, let alone Wade wanting to come to Houston.
It just is really hard for me to believe that the Suns are going to take the huge gamble that Dragic walks for nothing. Now with the Plumlee developments, hopefully we could get both. Rockets Out: Terry, Jones, Canaan, Dorsey, NOP Pick, NYK 2016 2nd rounder, 2017 1st Rockets In: Dragic, Plumlee Is that enough for Phoenix? I am not sure. It gives them 1 lottery pick, 1 future 1st, and a potentially great 2016 2nd, plus a decent 3rd/4th G option in Canaan, and a solid rotation PF in Jones. It lets the Rockets keep both DMo and Capela, while also adding a backup C option that is much better than Dorsey. I'd do Papa, instead of Terry, if need be, but it would be nice to retain Papa's contract for offseason trade possibilities. We need to go all in for a player like Dragic because we aren't getting him or anyone close with our cap room this summer. I think Dragic and Plumlee make us much, much better and a legitimate title contender this season and the next few. Hopefully the Suns are open to it and Morey can get it done.
I think they'd rather get the playoffs than the NOP pick to be honest. I know it may seem like it doesn't make sense given that a) OKC might catch them b) they'll lose in the first round But what are you telling your players and fans if you mail it in when you're in playoff position. Also, like I said in another thread, we're not giving them an offer they can't refuse. If it was like a top 6 pick, or a guy that would be a for sure solid starter who's young, sure. But we're not offering that.
From ESPN article: Now what the Suns want and what they'll get are two different things... But, for Plumlee alone they'd probably ask for that Pelicans pick. They'd never get it, mind you, but just to note where negotiations on both sides would start. The Rockets need a third team involved, I think, to make something work.
How bout no to anything that includes DMo .... then you are throwing in the NO pick too ?! Not just no but I'm hanging up the phone and not answering it again when I see your name on the caller ID.
Seems like a very high price to pay for a one year rental. And even if it was for 5 years, you don't give up 2 firsts for Dragic!!!
Exactly - I think the Suns would prefer a wing to a big in any deal. Unless the big was a 15-20ppg guy.
Never going to happen but really nice VALUE. Star point and 2 way center that is the countryman of DMo. It good to dream.
This is the year to go all in. We get a backup 5 jones will be back and we have our creator. Let's win the championship, not plan for next year. Howard's knee is bone on bone. You never know when injury will hit Harden. Look at Brandon Roy.
Yeah, I saw that and I don't think there is any chance they get anything close to a current year lottery pick for Plumlee. Best hope is a 21+ pick or a future 1st with lottery protections for the life of it. I think this combined combo is getting a pretty darn good return for Phoenix. Essentially Papa, NOP pick, Jones, Canaan, and a potentially very high 2016 2nd for Dragic and a future 1st for Plumlee. Probably as good of a haul as they can get for either. I can see that, too, but to likely miss the playoffs AND get nothing for Dragic seems really stupid and shortsighted, no matter the message a trade would send.
I've been saying this for weeks .... They have plenty of bigs and they are thin at SG and have been playing two point guards for the most part. If they move one of those PG's they open up a big chunk of minutes not at PG because they still have two others with long term contracts but at SG. Unless someone offers them a real stud big they Need a wing. Two teams that I think could help the Rockets facilitate that trade are Denver (Aflallo) & Charlotte (Stephenson).
I agree that they need a wing. I also think that after this next rough 8 game schedule, that OKC will over take them in the standings for good, and that then they will be able to realize the need to go ahead and trade, as the fan base will be more understanding. So here is my proposed trade: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l9zhnfv Phoenix Out: Goran Dragic, Zoran Dragic Phoenix In: Lance Stevenson, Clint Capela, NO1st Houston Out: Jason Terry, Papa, Clint Capela, NO1st Houston In: Goran Dragic, Zoran Dragic Charlotte Out: Lance Stevenson Charlotte In: Jason Terry, Papa I think Charlotte just wants to still get rid of Stevenson, so I don't think you need to throw in any extra incentives, but would add the NY 2nd if necessary. Phoenix would have a very good backcourt with Bledsoe and Stevenson with Thomas off the bench. Clint is a nice big prospect and of course the NO1st, all are a good haul for probably losing Dragic for nothing in FA. With Ariza and Terry, plus Jones coming back, we have no room to allow Papa to grow. We will lose Terry's experience, but with Dragic and Bev at PG, he wouldn't see any playing time unless there is an injury, for which Canaan can still do fine, or even Shevd since McHale seems to like him so much, if he isn't traded in the package instead of Terry. We could even take on Gary Neal if we wanted to balance out the players and Charlotte wanted to move him as well: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nrccmzk
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kw4xb6t Houston gets Dragic and PPatt and Plumlee Phoenix gets Terrence Ross, Kostas, and Capela, + pick Toronto gets Dmo and Shved and Nick Johnson or Canaan + pick
Ty Lawson, Gary Harris, Erick Green @12.7 Mil for: Jason Terry, Papanikolaou, Capela, Canaan and New Orleans Pick @13.6 Mil This sucks to give up all of these guys that have looked promising, but only Pap and Terry are being used. And Pap very sparingly. It allows a tired looking Bev to go back to the bench and be a spark plug, it gives us a creator and it cuts some of the load our MVP is carrying. Give him legs now and let's see what they do for us later, right? Give Dwight a player averaging 10 assists per game and see what that does for him immediately. Gotta give to get. It's at least worth a telephone call. Also, you can pull Capela or Canaan from the trade without hurting anything. Lawson/Harris for Terry/Pap/pick also works.
