ESPN sources say Nets have made D-Will, Brook Lopez & Joe Johnson available via trade

Perkins and Lamb for Brook Lopez? *******. At least take Reggie Jackson.

 

I cannot fathom why a team would literally just hand Brook Lopez to a contender for free. And as a Houston fan, I'm getting irritated by these rumors.

If Deron is also on the block, surely getting Reggie Jackson included would be in their interest.

 

Its dumb, and bad business. They want to sell their franchise but they think the Brooklyn name will sell it to prospective owners. Owners are smart enough to know that:

-Winning = more $
-assets= ability to build a winner

The address alone wont fetch them what they want. If the Clippers didn't have Blake Griffin, and Chris Paul, I would be willing to bet that it probably would go for AT LEAST 500 million less. The fact that they were going to be seen as a contending team in a huge market for years to come mattered to their selling price.

Even a few draft picks Brooklyn could acquire from a 3rd team in a Lopez/Perk & RJax/ swap would make a huge difference in their viability for owners that want the team they buy to actually have a CHANCE at competing in the next 5 years.

.........

If I was a billionaire right now, I'd actually pay higher than market value for the Hawks over the Nets because of this. I'd probably move them to Seattle but either way. I could get much better value at the price I'd pay for the Hawks in that smaller market than I would for a poorly run organization in New York that needed to be gutted and would have no means to turn around to winning & profitability for 5 years. Any owner taking on the Brooklyn Nets right now is facing a mountain of challenges to keep that franchise value at the level its at now & they have to be willing to except the fact that their pet investment will be for a losing team for some time... Billionaires are billionaires because they are used to winning at life. That's a hard pill to swallow.

 

As someone said the deal for Lopez is a salary dump. BRK wants to cut salaries and sell. They don't really care what they get back as long as it is expiring.

That Thad Young for Perk stuff is total nonsense. If BRK is interested in Thad Young and Minny is willing to move him for an expiring it will only be because BRK knows another team will give them a draft pick for Thad Young.

 

It's about money. Both Lamb and Perkins are unrestricted next year. But just heard that Brooklyn just pulled out of the Deal. I think the Nets know wtf they want

 

Jeremy Lamb is like half of what OKC got for Harden! He is valuable!

 

If it's just a salary dump, why wouldn't Brooklyn just send him to the 76ers and save the $40+ million in salary and taxes? Maybe the 76ers are asking for the moon, but I still think a deal could get done.

 

I cannot fathom why the East keeps sending all the talent West. East keeps handing over talent for scraps. Abolish the damn conferences already!

East to West:
Rivers to LA Clippers
Green to Memphis
Wright to Phoenix
Waiters to Oklahoma City
Smith to Houston
Rondo & Powell to Dallas

West to East:
Shavlik Randolph to Boston
Timofey Mozgov to Cleveland
Lance Thomas to New York
Anthony Tolliver to Detroit
Jae Crowder to Boston

In-conference:
Bullock LAC to PHX
Pondexter MEM to NO
Smith NO to MEM
Amundson CLE to NY
Shumpert & Smith NY to CLE
Black HOU to LAL
Daniels to MIN
Brewer to HOU
Kirilenko to PHI

Robinson, Prince & Nelson were out West, traded East and [the first two] will likely end up back out West.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Another team probing on Brook Lopez: The Houston Rockets.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/556155342690598913">January 16, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brooklyn is &quot;standing pat at this time,&quot; on a Lopez deal, Nets source tells Yahoo.</p>&mdash; Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/556156695479468032">January 16, 2015</a></blockquote>
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umm why?

 

Probably the same reason we were "interested" in Rondo...trying to jack up the price for other WC teams.

 

Sigh...

I just hope this is Morey being Morey but I hope it's not what I think it is. I hope Morey is just driving up the price for other teams and muddying up that Thunder deal. If it made the Nets pull out and reevaluate what they can get for Lopez than that's a win too for us.

I just think the guy is overrated but the Rockets considering this deal makes me wonder if we are already thinking about replacing Dwight.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brooklyn is deciding, for now, not to move on Brook Lopez deal to OKC, per source. Can always change back in a hurry w/one phone call, tho.</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/556157051429466114">January 16, 2015</a></blockquote>
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What's great about trading for Lopez is that it doesn't limit your flexibility at the trade deadline. He has a high enough salary that you wouldn't need to aggregate contracts at the deadline. You could, for example, flip Lopez, NOP 1st, NYK 2nd, and the rights to Gentile and/or Llull to Cleveland for Love and it works fine under the CBA.

Something like Papanikolaou, Terry, TJones and Johnson for Lopez.

 

Lets gut our depth for Love?

I think Morey has spoiled guys. People are looking for the perfect starting 5.

Dragic/Harden/Ariza/Love/Dwight

and pretty soon, if Morey got Love then people would be looking to somehow get Durant.

I rather have a team built around 3 really good players and the rest of the team being role players who have bought in 100% to their roles. A close knit group.

 

IMO, sounds like they were probing mostly to get in the convo. I'd assume their interests were mostly in being a 3rd team facilitator.

As I mentioned a few minutes before that Woj tweet went out, could be a opporntunity for them to facilitate:

Lopez to OKC
Perk to Minnesota
Young to BKN
RJackson to Houston

With Houston filling in the necessary assets to make everyone happy.

Of course this is my speculation on the end game reason for Morey to get involved. I have no idea how they feel about Reggie Jackson, but I would be willing to bet that he was just trying to get in the conversation on Lopez to become an active negotiator to be able to formally propose a trade where Houston actually benefits.

If for some reason he ended up getting Lopez for himself for nothing at all, then maybe he'd take it and go with having again the best backup 5 in the league.

IMO, that certainly didn't seem like the driving motive, but it was something he could keep in mind if a 3 or 4 team just wasn't possible.

 

[rQUOTEr]The Charlotte Hornets and Brooklyn Nets have restarted trade discussions, this time focused on guard Joe Johnson, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

The Hornets and Nets are discussing a larger package that would likely include guards Lance Stephenson and Gerald Henderson and forward Marvin Williams, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

The Nets have dropped eight of 10 games, and fallen a half-game behind the Hornets for the final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference.

Charlotte owner Michael Jordan has been intrigued with the possibility of Johnson, who has struggled recently with tendinitis. Johnson, 33, has one of the three major contracts that the Nets would ideally like to unload, what with the $23.1 million on his 2014-15 deal, and $24.9 million in the final season of his 2015-16 contract.

Brooklyn has been unable to muster a market for guard Deron Williams, who has missed nine straight games with a rib injury. The Nets are still intent on moving Brook Lopez, with the Denver Nuggets remaining an interested trade partner, league sources said.

The Nets and Hornets had serious talks on a three-way deal that would've sent Brook Lopez to the Oklahoma City Thunder, but the deal fell apart when Brooklyn had hesitancy on adding the combustible Stephenson and wanted a bigger haul for Lopez.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/source...-joe-johnson--lance-stephenson-011452817.html[/rQUOTEr]

 

More probing than a sorority mixer past midnight.

 

Not the financial savings I'd assume they are hoping for + two bodies to cut; or three-way? Interesting when the Nyets are (allegedly) for sale...