If nobody has put this one up yet, I've been thinking about a common sense trade that could possibly happen if we can't get a major move done at the deadline. If Miami is out of the playoff race, offer them a salary dump... Andersen, Chalmers, and Shawne Williams in Shved, Dorsey, and JET out. Gives another defensive oriented PG with long arms, playoff experience, and the ability to shoot it or make plays behind James, plus another legit 7-footer to backup Dwight and give us a good foursome of bigs, and in Shawne Williams you get a very underrated floor spreader. Keep all the guys on rookie deals and all our picks. Stay under the luxury tax. Go to war.
I wouldn't mind Andersen, but please no Chalmers. Would rather Rafer bring back out the jersey than to use Chalmers.
I would trade TJ, P.BEv, Cannan, and Nola 1st for a great Pure PG. and then sign Nate to run our back up pg. and alex to 76ers for their second rounder in a sep. deal. maybe for MCW. MCW / Nate Harden / Brewer / Johnson Ariza / Papa Dmoe / Smith Howard / DMoe / Dorsey / Capela
76ers aren't going to trade for Shved when they just traded him to us. Second, MCW is not worth near what we gave up. Not even close.
Reg BKN/OKC Lopez trade: What does BKN want?: Shed salary, and they want Thad Young for some reason. What does OKC want?: Arms race in West. Want Lopez. Also need to resolve RJax situation where he might command too much money next Summer especially with Lopez coming in. What does Minnesota want?: Get something back for Thad Young. Get young talent, and draft picks to help rebuild What does Houston want?: Improve the PG position long term, and not give up key rotation pieces to upgrade. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lo48eeh Complex 4 team trade, but seems to make everyone happy. -I would think the team that the Rockets would compensate with a 1st round pick (probably the 2017 Rockets own pick lottery protected, or the Knicks 2nd rounder + other 2nd rounder level assets) would actually be Minnesota for compensation on taking back Perkins on behalf of OKC & gives them assets for Thad Young. What do you guys think?
So the Rockets wouldn't give up any key rotational pieces, keep the NOP pick and get Reggie Jackson? Sure!
In the scenario I put up there as a hypothetical, everyone gets what they want. OKC is basically trading Jackson for Lopez. The team that is in the bargaining position to ask for picks and young talent should really just be Minnesota. Do they think moving Thad Young for the Knicks picks, or a lottery protected future pick is a good deal for them??... or would they risk losing the deal to try and haggle for a better pick for a player they are going to lose this Summer anyways, and they are one of the worst teams in the league essentially tanking (on accident). If its a straight up deal with OKC for RJackson, I think they are in a much greater position to demand the Pelles pick, but they are getting the best player in the deal already, and they might feel desperate to make this happen without trying to strong arm the Rockets. The Rockets are the perfect team right now to facilitate a 3 team deal because they have the assets to bridge the gap on so many deals with cash strapped/and draft pick strapped teams looking to shed players. I think this puts them in a great bargaining position. That being said.... sure, Morey could very well think RJax is worth more and wont want to risk losing him in a hypothetical deal like this, and say F-It. I very well might myself. But I'm just saying, as far as bargaining position goes, in that particular scenario, I don't see it being a necessity.
Don't want to trade Howard. He never will be traded. But if we were to trade him send him to Toronto for Lowry and Valenciunas
The trade deadline 2/19) is just over a month away, and teams are not stupidly waiting until the last minute to make trades, which has typically been the case. Here are some players who (IMO) are players that will likely garner Daryl Morey's attention, as they are either undervalued, underpaid, extremely available, or some combination of the above. I expect Morey to trade for one, possibly more than one, of the players listed. Rasual Butler, Wizards. Yeah, he's a journeyman, but look at that 3 point percentage this season! Plus, Washington has a bit of a logjam at the position, and recently spent a VERY high lottery pick on a SF (Otto Porter). Martell Webster recently returned from injury, and thete is also Paul Pierce, of course. If Morey were to offer a second round pick for Butler, Washington might do that. Seriously, look at Butler's three point percentage! Darren Collison, Kings. Who knows what Sacramento is doing here, but they do not look like a team that is going to compete for a playoff spot this season. Collison really is a nice player, and his salary is reasonable ($5.0 mil in 2015-16, $5.2 mil in 2016-17). He represents an upgrade over Jason Terry and Isaiah Canaan. And he turns 28 in 2015. Do the rebuilding Kings want him to be their starting PG next season? Or do they want to maybe draft a PG this June, or maybe sign a free agent PG, or trade for one, in July? I have no idea. My guess is that he stays put, but if Morey were to offer Kostas Papanikolaou and either Nick Johnson or a second round pick, maybe Sacramento would consider that. Luol Deng, Heat. Deng will opt out of his contract this summer and become an unresyricted free agent again, where he hopes to have better luck than he had last summer. So, if Miami continues to tread below .500, and look like a #7 or #8 seed, at best, look for Pat Riley to trade Deng. I think Riley says yes to an offer of Clint Capela + expiring contracts (Jason Terry and Kostas Papanikolaou). GREAT trade for Houston! Deng is very near the top of my wish list, what a nice player. Goran Dragic, Suns. Dragic has been discussed to death. I think Phoenix keeps him and is headed for the playoffs, but what do I know? If traded to Houston, expect both Motiejunas and the Pelicans pick to be shipped out. One possibility, if Phoenix really is worried that they will not be able to re-sign Dragic, is a three-way, with Ty Lawson (under contract through 2016-17) to Phoenix, Dragic to Houston, and the Pelicans pick and Motiejunas to Denver. Other pieces would need to be involved but you get the idea. Jared Dudley, Bucks. Dudley is having a very nice bounceback season. Don't forget that, just a year and a half ago, the Clippers viewed Dudley as one of the final pieces to the championship puzzle, and were willing to give up Eric Bledsoe in order to acquire Dudley. Milwaukee is looking like a team that should finish either #6 or #7 in the East, so maybe trading Dudley makes no sense. However, keep in mind that Dudley will very likely decline his modest player option for next season and become an unrestricted free agent, and I kind of doubt Milwaukee re-signs him. Dudley allows Houston to play true floor-spreading smallball, by moving Trevor Ariza over to the "power forward" position. I think Milwaukee would consider accepting a package of Kostas Papanikolaou and either Nick Johnson or a second round pick. Another option is to expand the deal to include one, maybe two other Bucks players. Dudley is a nice player for any aspiring championship contender to pick up relatively cheap. Reggie Evans, Kings. Evans has long been loved by advanced stats. He belongs in the rotation of a contender, coming off the bench for 12-15 minutes/game. Just a fantastic offensive rebounder. If offered a second round pick on or shortly before 2/19 for Evans, I think Sacramento does that deal. Or maybe a deal that nets both Collison and Evans? Keep an eye on this situation. I can see Houston and Sacramento swinging yet another trade here. Nick Johnson, Kostas Papanikolaou, and a second round pick for Collison and Evans works. Danilo Gallinari, Nuggets. See my Ty Lawson analysis below re the Nuggets'rebuilding situation. I think they definitely want to trade Gallinari, though. Once upon a time, Gallinari was a very nice young player. He makes $11.6 mil in 2015-16 (next season), then he hits unrestricted free agency. He is a real buy low candidate, and a relatively low risk, high reward gamble. I do not think Denver turns down an offer of Clint Capela + expiring contracts (Terry and Papanikolaou). Again, keep an eye on the Nuggets, they will be very active. Kevin Garnett, Nets. Brooklyn is most definitely slashing payroll and hoarding assets, in anticipation of the sale of the team. Garnett is a very strong bet to get traded for a draft pick or a promising/cheap young player, plus expiring contracts, between now and 2/19. I do not think KG winds up in Houston, though, as I think Morey is setting his aim higher. Plus, KG is expensive, making him tough to acquire. He will be a great guy to get, though, for any championship contender. This is probably his final season in the league, and he is still a pretty good player, I would hate to see this final season wasted in a Nets uniform. Tobias Harris, Magic. Harris looks like a poyentially excellent fit at PF for Houston, as the long sought after stretch four. However, the only reason why Orlando MIGHT be making him available is because Orlando does not view him as worthy of a max salary, and he WILL get a max contract this summer. This means that whoever trades for him needs to be prepared to give him max money. I have no idea what is going on in the minds of Orlando management re Harris but he is a guy for Rockets fans to keep an eye on. Ersan Ilyasova, Bucks. This guy makes $7.9 mil next year, and he hasn't been that good for at least the past year and a half. I think Milwaukee would give this guy away (for expiring contracts) but I do not think Morey bites. Although who knows. See my Khris Middleton analysis below re the Bucks' logjam at forward. Jeremy Lamb, Thunder. Oklahoma City continues to make highly questionable roster moves. They seem to think that it's still 1995. I mean, seriously, Dion Waiters? Reggie Jackson? Meanwhile, they very recently nearly gave away Jeremy Lamb, a better two way player than the terrible Waiters. A well managed team will soon swoop in and pick up Lamb for a song. Once upon a time, Lamb was identified as a nice young player, and was drafted by... Daryl Morey. Ty Lawson, Nuggets. The Nuggets are clearly sloughing off veteran salary in exchange for promising/cheap young players, draft picks, and expiring contracts, which means Arron Afflalo and Wilson Chandler are both sure bets to be traded. But just because a team is trading away veteran pieces does not mean that ALL veterans are getting traded. In other words, it's hard to say how motivated Denver is to trade away Lawson. I do think that an offer of the Pelicans pick (probably the #12, #13, or #14 overall pick in the 2015 draft), either Motiejunas, Jones, or Capela, plus the expiring contracts of Terry and Papanikolau, is VERY tempting to Denver. Lawson really is a guy for Rockets fans to keep an eye on. Khris Middleton, Bucks. He is a nice thtee point shooter )around 40% on the season, last time I checked), with the size to play alongside Ariza in a smallball lineup. And, like Jared Dudley, he will be a free agent this summer. The Bucks are clearly giving The Greek Freak and Jabari Parker all the minutes they can handle at the two forward spots for the foreseeable future. Milwaukee also has Dudley, and Middleton, and John Henson, and Ersan Ilyasova. My guess is that they hold on to Henson and trade at least one, maybe two, of the other three (Dudley, Middleton, Ilyasova). Ilyasova is the guy they REALLY want to move, but keep an eye on Dudley and Middleton, too. Miles Plumlee, Suns. A possible throw-in, if Dragic is traded to Houston. Plumlee is a nice, and cheap, backup C, and he is suddenly expendable, since Phoenix traded for Brandan Wright. Not a big enough upgrade over Houston's current backup C options to get very excited about but I can see him winding up in a Rockets uniform by 2/19. Pablo Prigioni, Knicks. Prigioni is quietly one of the most overlooked, and underpaid, players in the league. The Knicks are easily the worst team in the league and are trying to create as much 2015 cap space as possible. Phil Jackson does not appear to know what the hell he is doing. If Houston can trade Nick Johnson or a second round pick somehow for Prigioni, man, that would be great. Prigioni would be a very nice consolation prize in the event Houston cannot acquire a Goran Dragic or Ty Lawson. Prigioni is better than you probably think he is. Henry Sims, Sixers. See the Miles Plumlee analysis above. Acquiring a backup C is not a big priority, but if Houston can pick up Sims for next to nothing (a second round pick), I can see that happening. I can see Houston acquiring one of these three bigs for a second round pick: Sims, Plumlee, Reggie Evans. Dwyane Wade, Heat. Wade is a dark horse trade candidate. Miami appears to be going nowhere. Wade cannot be happy. Is Riley really going to put together another 55+ win team with Wade as one of its key players? I doubt it. If Houston makes Miami the same sort of offer that it is presumably making for Dragic and Lawson--i.e., the Pelicans pick, either Motiejunas, Jones, or Capela, plus expiring contracts--for Wade, Riley HAS to think about saying yes, right? By the way, why am I the first person suggesting Wade-to-Houston? Isn't he kind of exactly what Houston needs to get over the hump? David West, Pacers. Most likely, Larry Bird wants to keep this core together for at least one more run, next season, when Paul George has hopefully returned to his 2013-14 form. OR, Bird can keep George, and maybe George Hill, trade away everybody else (including the unrestricted free agent-to-be, Roy Hibbert, before he walks this summer), and reload next summer around a Paul George-George Hill core. West is not getting any younger (or better), he is fairly expensive next season ($12.6 mil), and he becomes an unrestricted free agent in just a year and a half, in 2016, when salaries should begin to really skyrocket. Bird would really have to consider a package of Terrence Jones (or Donatas Motiejunas, or Clint Capela) plus expiring contracts (Papanikolaou and Terry) in exchange for West. So! What do I think happens? Well, it depends. Morey is opportunistic. He is constantly calling around, checking on who might be available. I do think Morey trades for a guard, and that it will be either Dragic, Lawson, Wade, Collison, or Prigioni, probably in that order of preference. If I had to guess, it will be either Lawson or Prigioni, as I think Phoenix wants to keep Dragic, and that the highly irrational Kings brain trust will ask for way too much in exchange for Collison. But keep an eye on Wade, he is a guy who may become available at the last minute, and no one is considering this scenario. In addition to trading for one of the five guards listed, I expect Morey to trade for a forward who can shoot the ball well (or at least well enough) from long range. Ideally, that guy is Tobias Harris, but my guess is that Orlando wants to keep the guy, at least for now. I think Morey trades for one of the following guys, if Harris is unobtainable: Luol Deng, David West, Gallinari, Dudley, Middleton. In that order of preference. If I had to guess, I think it will be either Deng, Dudley, or Middleton. Preferably Deng. Finally, I think Morey may try to pick up a backup big, either Evans, Sims, or Plumlee, if he can get the guy for next to nothing (e.g., a second round pick). Not a huge priority, though. Getting shipped out in these moves are: a) Jason Terry, Kostas Papanikolaou, and Alexey Shved (expiring contracts); b) draft picks (including the Pelicans' 2015 pick); and c) promising/cheap young players, from among the following: Donatas Motiejunas, Terrence Jones, Isaiah Canaan, Clint Capela, Nick Johnson. Probably not all five, but at least two or three of them.
Wow, and you think the point guard position is broke now? Imagine how broke it would be with MCW and Nate running the point. At least with Beverley / Terry we have two PG's that can hit the 3 pointer and 1 that can play defense. And you do realize that the 76ers just traded Alexi to us right?
meh MCW isnt that good of a player he needs the ball in his hands Beverley is fine he plays good D and makes 3s no need to trade him unless we can get Conley
Good post.... Wade has been a guy on my radar also. He's basically a much better and more accomplished version of Dragic (a player that I've long coveted). Hypothetically, he could do great things for us. The problems, of course, are Miami's motivation to deal him coupled with Wade's troublesome contract (no trade clause, P.O. at the end of the season). Would I risk Jones/Papa/Terry + NO pick for him? Absolutely. I highly doubt Miami would agree to that, though. At least right now while they're still technically a playoff team.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine Houston out：K.Papa,J.Terry,DMO,NOP pick in：G.Dragic,M.Plumlee Denver out：T.Lawson in：K.Papa,J.Terry,DMO,NOP pick Phoenix out：G.Dragic,M.Plumlee in：T.Lawson
Thanks for your response. I think you'd need to view Wade as a rental, either through the end of this season or, if he decides to not opt out, through the end of next season. A rental is okay because Houston is in win now mode, they are a player or two away from being a legit championship contender, and Dwight Howard's status as a top flight player has a shelf life. As you point out, Wade has the no trade clause. So the questions are, would he really want to sit through another rebuild? And does Pat Riley honestly think that Wade has enough left in the tank? By the time Riley can upgrade the roster, will Wade still be playing at a high level? Riley is stubborn but he's not stupid. I think Riley is trying to buy low on a big salary, big name guy, whose stock is at an all-time low, somebody like Brook Lopez. But this is a bit of a desperation move Anyway, Miami's last game before the All Star Break is 2/11. Next game is 2/20. Trade deadline is 2/19. Riley presumably is calling around in the meantime, and probably waits until after 2/11 what he wants to do. Keep in mind that Detroit is red hot and only two or three games out of a playoff spot, after dropping you know who from their roster. The top seven in the East is basically set in stone (IMO): Atlanta, Chicago, Toronto, Washington, Cleveland, Milwaukee, and Detroit (obviously not necessarily in that order). So Miami, after 2/11, is trying to decide how badly it wants to be the #8 seed, and also if it wants to try again at reloading around Wade and Bosh (during 2015 free agency period) or around Bosh and Motiejunas (or Jones, or even Capela) and whoever it can get with that Pelicans pick instead. One last idea: Riley may also convey to Wade that, if he trades Wade to somebody in February for two or three assets that will improve the team, and Wade opts out of his contract after the season, bringing back Wade this offseason (i.e., signing him as a free agent) would be priority #1 for the Heat organization. Wink, wink. Riley is sneaky; do a Google search on "Juwan Howard" and "1996" and "Pat Riley" if you haven't been following the NBA for the last 20 years. This ploy nearly worked with the Boston Red Sox and Jon Lester last season but the Cubs ended up signing Lester instead.
Yes, this is basically what I am suggesting, with some minimum salary filler involved, as necessary. If Phoenix is concerned that Dragic will sign with someone else this summer, when Dragic will be an unrestricted free agent, or if instead Phoenix thinks that giving Dragic $80-$100 mil in guaranteed salary (keep in mind that Dragic turns 30 in less than 16 months) sounds kind of insane, then maybe converting Dragic and Plumlee into Ty Lawson, who is under contract through 2016-17 and also 18 months younger than Dragic, sounds like the best plan. My gut feeling is that Houston says yes, and Phoenix says yes, but that Denver is on the fence. Also, that argument in favor of Lawson over Dragic is appealing to not only Phoenix but also to Houston. In other words, Daryl Morey may simply decide that he would rather keep Lawson rather than flipping him to Phoenix for Dragic. I continue to believe that Morey is trying to trade for either Dragic or Lawson. Either player represents a big upgrade to Houston's roster and Rockets fans should be thrilled either way.
What are your thoughts on trading for Stauskas since it's been reported that the Kings are looking to move him for front court depth? TJones + filler maybe? Stauskas does fit our 3 point heavy style of play and could bolster this bench and with TJones looking healthy and finding himself falling on the depth chart it could help both teams. We all know Morey's got Sacramento's phone number...
This. Rox send Terry, Papa, & Shved + NOP's 1st + $3M cash (possibly NYK's 2nd & maybe rights to Llull). Heat buy out Terry who re-signs with Rox after clearing waivers (he tells other teams, I'm going back to Rox or I'll retire). Riley tells D-Wade: we ain't going to do well in playoffs (or make playoffs) so go play for a championship this season down in Houston. We use Wade as 2nd / 3rd scorer + 2nd / 3rd ball handler + outstanding defender + championship experience to win 3rd championship. Wade opts out at end of the year re-signs with Miami. Also, Heat use lottery pick to draft a SG (Wade's replacement) and build for future / East competition. I Like IT! Make it so (to quote Jean-Luc Picard)
I believe the main target by DM will still be a quality PG who can score. PG is the only spot we are lacking to be a contender. DM is waiting how TJ performs after he comes back which is very soon. After that, either D Mo or TJ will be packaged together with NOP pick plus some fillers for a PG. Bev will be coming off the bench.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n4fftmq Denver also gets a few picks. Denver buys out terry and terry resigns with Houston.
