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Truehoop TV from ESPN : MVP - Curry vs Harden

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cml750, Jan 14, 2015.

  1. cml750

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  2. BleedsRocketRed

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    I'm so sick of this Curry love fest. Unfortunately, I feel that if the Warriors win 60+ games this season (on pace) he will win it over Harden.

    In my opinion Harden is (and should be) the clear cut MVP of the league.
     
  3. ThatBoyNick

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    Why? He has been playing like a monster.

    23 PPG, 8 AST, 5 RPG, 2 STL, while nearly shooting 50-40-90%

    The Warriors are the best team in the league, and Curry is why.
     
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  4. CDrex

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    Curry's a perfectly fine candidate. Best player on the best team. Only marginally inferior to James statistically.

    Harden has my vote, but Curry is a very solid #2.
     
  5. glynch

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    1) Not sure the Warriors are the best team.

    2) I would argue Harden's stats are better. He scores less and rebounds less and as a point guard you expect his assists to be high.

    3) Let's have three starters injured and see if he can carry the team without them.
     
  6. Andy Sheets

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    I'm fine with people rating other players ahead of Harden if it leads to a fire getting lit under Harden in the playoffs and he goes all "Hakeem vs. Robinson" on everyone.
     
  7. ThatBoyNick

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    1 - They have the best record in the league

    2 - Curry's efficiency > Harden's 4 more points, and you say as a point you just expect Curry to get more assist? Well Harden, as a SG, is just expected to get more rebounds as well then. But that argument is bogus anyways because Harden is our point, and Curry is only .8 rebounds behind Harden.

    3- 2 starters Lee and Bogut, and a key bench player Ezeli, have all had injury problems this season.
     
  8. Vin2k2

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    I'll just leave this here :)

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  9. mfastx

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    Curry has a better team around him top to bottom, Rockets will probably be almost 10 games if not more behind the Warriors by the end of the season, it'll be tough for Harden to win it over Curry, even though I believe he is the better player. Not by a lot though.
     
  10. tksense

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    I don't think curry's teammates are better than harden's, I believe the opposite is true. However, Kerr is a much better coach. Warriors play more cohesively, but they don't have anything near a Howard.

    Warriors also blow out teams a lot, hence curry sits at 33mpg currently. Another reason he's 23ppg instead of 27 like earlier. Curry's play making actually makes the team go and is the key to why warriors are so good, in fact, the best team right now.

    Curry also consistently produced throughout the year, and numbers are down since beginning of season only due to blow out WINS. Whereas Harden began the season with a long stretch of below .400 shooting, as he only picked it up recently.

    If season plays out according to current trend, the trophy is for Curry to take home. Esp, on paper, before the season, you would bet on Houston having a better record than the dubs. Curry will be credited for golden state's improvement.
     
  11. mig0s

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    would you guys trade Harden for Curry?
     
  12. ForTheWinYes

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    More people had the Rockets out of the playoffs than ahead of the Warriors who were picked as a dark horse title contender.
     
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    I watch a lot of GS games. CURRY has a lot. A lot of help. The GS team is a well oiled unit and Currys their best player, but not more valuable to them then harden is to the Rox.

    He also doesn't close games the way Harden has and very weak on D. If Nash won it twice curry can, but Nash was much more ruthless down the stretch. If GS finishes #1 though and houston 3 or below, voters will look past all this.
     
  14. mig0s

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    GSW should trade Curry to be relevant
     
  15. J Sizzle

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    Harden has to carry his team almost every game.
     
  16. Bo6

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    wow that bald guy has never watched a rockets game in his life.
     
  17. NBAandNFLFan

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    yep its really not close to me, teams have to worry about klay, lee, draymon, barnes etc... curry is just the best player on a great team

    without harden especially in the west this team would be the 8th seed
     
  18. SeekingAlpha

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    I don't know about top to bottom...

    Which GS player would you be willing to trade Dwight for? Their second guy is probably Klay Thompson and I absolutely wouldn't make that trade. Bogut or David Lee? Please.

    Would I trade Ariza for Iggy? Maybe... But Iggy's price tag is higher and his athleticism is on the decline.

    They don't have a promising nor talented post player as we do in DMo. So I wouldn't trade him for neither Bogut nor Lee either.

    Sure it would be nice to swap Brewer/Ariza for Klay Thompson Iggy, maybe Harrison Barnes, but I think our teams are roughly even matched. It's moreso our style of play VS theirs. They have very talented shooters in a system that favors spacing + pnrs for their shooters, thus opening up the lane.
     
  19. daoshi

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    Curry gets my vote over harden. I've watched every of Warriors game, and all but two Rockets games so far this season, Curry is just better this season.

    The guy scores 23pt (Harden 27) with 50%-40%-93% (Harden 44%-37%-90%) shooting, dishes out 8.1 with 3.2 TO (Harden 6.6/4.0), 2.1 steals (Harden 1.8). With much smaller size, he gets almost the same number of rebounds. The only thing Harden has an advantage is getting to FT line. If you watch the Warriors game, you'd noticed that Curry had to earn every one of his point because he is THE mostly tightly guarded player in the league, the defender won't leave him free for one second. If the Warrior has a post threat like Howard, or DMO, they would be the favorite to win this year.

    Oh, I don't think anyone deserve to be MVP, when shoots under 45%.
     
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  20. Num1RoXfaN

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    I don't mind Curry winning it I'm more shocked at the fact that McFail doesn't know how to call plays if he even has any. I see teams run plays and get constant lay ups on us while we struggle to score 3-4 minutes at a time and I'm thinking it's because we have no set plays. All it is is drive and kick if you don't have the layup!!! Pathetic
     

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