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[Hypothetical] Peyton Manning, Ryan Mallet or Draft

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by bobloblaw, Jan 12, 2015.

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Which QB would you prefer?

  1. Peyton Manning

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  2. Ryan Mallett

    17.7%
  3. Draft a QB

    11.3%
  1. Bobbythegreat

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    I seriously think they should cut him, start the rebuilding process now instead of starting it next year at this time. I don't think they'd be a legit contender so you'd just be completely wasting a season.
     
  2. DonnyMost

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    Peyton Manning could lead a team of hot dog turds to the Superbowl.

    They're not cutting him.

    There's a small (very small) chance he retires, but the Broncos are going to have him on their roster as long as his contract allows.

    P.S. LOL @ the idea of Kubiak forcing him out. Here's how that job interview will go... "Hi Gary, so are you OK with having Peyton Manning as your QB? No? OK, thanks for stopping by!"
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Which is why his team has gone to the SB every season right? Oh wait, that's only happened 3 times in 17 seasons....
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    LOL. You say that like it's not an accomplishment.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Sure it's an accomplishment, but saying

    is laughably inaccurate. If we're sticking to reality, current Peyton Manning can lead a team stacked with talent to two one and done's in the playoffs and one trip to the SB to get crushed by a good defense with a game manager at QB.
     
  6. DonnyMost

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    It's not "laughably inaccurate", it's hyperbole, you nitwit.

    It's not a coincidence that his teams have won 10+ games and made the playoffs 16 times.

    You think the Denver FO would rather rebuild than squeeze every last moment they can out of a HOFer? Not hardly.

    You continue to be the dumbest dumb who ever dumbed a dumb around here, and that's saying something.
     
  7. Hey Now!

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    Yeah, I have to call BS, too. To the playoffs? No doubt. But the narrative Peyton Manning = Super Bowl... well, it should have ended years ago but really needs to now.

    (Also, he's never played with less than stellar offensive talent. I'm not knocking him; he's obviously in the GOAT conversation - but let's not pretend he's dragged the 1984 Oilers on his back all these years. James, Harrison, Wayne, Clark, Addai, Thomas, Decker...... He's had *a lot* of top-notch weapons at his disposal.)
     
  8. DieHard Rocket

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    This.

    Get Mallett back on a heavily incentived deal.

    Then pretend that you didn't do that going into the draft and act like you have nothing but Case Keenum and Ryan Fitzpatrick as options. Draft a QB in the first two rounds, by means of trading around if needed.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    You're normally pretty rational, but it's hard to take the guy who calls him "peepee" seriously on this subject.

    Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees.

    They can all lead a troupe of (hot or cold) dog turds to the Superbowl in any given year.

    That's why they're in a tier all their own.

    (Also, Thomas and Decker are, so far, pretty much creations of Peyton... not sure why you mention them as elite talent... in fact, almost all of those guys produced exclusively under Manning... Peyton's RB and starting WRs are always top notch fantasy gets, not a coincidence IMO)
     
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  10. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL you are the one making moronic statements, yet you call me a nitwit....


    Be better.
     
  11. DonnyMost

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    What's dumber?

    Me thinking Peyton Manning could get to a Superbowl next year, or you thinking he's going to get cut and/or pushed out by Gary Kubiak?
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    What's dumber is you saying

    Again, be better. I get that it's hyperbole, but it's simply not an intelligent thing to say and it adds nothing to the board.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    Apparently you don't. That, or you don't know the definition of hyperbole.

    Vegas has the Broncos tied for 3rd mostly likely to win the Superbowl next year at 10/1.

    I wonder what the odds are for Peyton getting cut? Better start that rebuilding project! Lulz.
     
  14. Hey Now!

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    Yes, Pee Pee is an obviously elite QB. What's your point?

    Again, playoffs? Yes. Super Bowl? Manning's had three times as many one-and-dones as Super Bowls.

    (Also, Brees... You realize he's been to the playoffs once the past three years and just six times in 13 years as a starter? Same number as Flacco in twice as many years. And to the SB once since 2002 (again, same number as Flacco)? The "Brees is an elite QB" narrative needs to end, too. Very, very good. Not in the class of those 3.)

    (Have you forgotten who the QB in Denver was before PeePee?)

    Look, man - I think PeePee is in the GOAT conversation; he's a tremendously accomplsihed QB who I hate, in large part, because he so effortlessly dissected my favorite team for nine years. I just think we need to tap the brakes; his resume doesn't need to be fluffed. He's routinely underperformed in the playoffs and has played with a host of tremednously good players (I didn't even mention any of the guys who played defense - Freeny, Mathis, Miller...), neither of which, IMO, invalidates anything he's done.

    But the next time he drags a bad team to the Super Bowl - the scenario you claim happens with regularity - will be the first time.
     
  15. DonnyMost

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    The point is what you edited out of the quote:

    They can all lead a troupe of (hot or cold) dog turds to the Superbowl in any given year. That's why they're in a tier all their own.

    And yet he's still a betting favorite to get back to the Superbowl. Hmm.

    They were also rookies that year, soooooo point is pretty moot.

    The pattern of production is clear here.

    Peyton makes dog turds (double down on the turd analogy!) into serviceable players, and serviceable players into pro bowlers.

    Strawman alert. Never said such a thing. I said he could do it. Not "does it regularly".

    I've come to find you are also not one who takes hyperbole lying down.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    They are counting on fools who believe that Manning = SB throwing their money away. There are plenty of fools in the world.
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    And how much will you be wagering on Peyton Manning playing in next year's Super Bowl?

    Seriously, DM - he's made the playoffs 14 of the past 16 years (technically, 15 - he didn't play in '11) and been to the three Super Bowls. He's the human form of the 1990's Braves.

    They were rookies for two years?

    Agreed; Manning is virtually a sure thing to make the playoffs; lousy bet to win in the playoffs.

    You're giving Peyton Manning WAY too much credit. He's played with a lot of first round offensive talent at each of his stops.

    He's never done it - but OK.

    Peyton Manning doesn't need hyperbole. He's on a very short list of the GOAT. Why fluff his resume? And further, why promote the idea that teams are a QB and 10 guys; you're not that poster. Brady is closest thing to what you're describing and even he's played his entire career with arguably the greatest coach in NFL history.
     
  18. edwardc

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    I'm going with you on this one .
     
  19. Rocket River

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    Any chance another team will offer Mallet WILD MONEY?

    Rocket River
     
  20. ima_drummer2k

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    As long as we're only talking about hypotheticals (I think he'll retire or stay with the Broncos, FWIW), I would absolutely be on board with him playing here next year.

    He's a better option than any QB on our roster now or any QB we draft this summer, so what's the downside again? Because he doesn't guarantee a Superbowl??? Because he stunts the growth of Mallet or Savage???

    Hell, forget about the SB and just think of how much fun next year would be. Especially playing the colts twice a year. I think we can all agree this franchise needs a shot in the arm.....
     

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