Almost. Can he continue to play at a high level? Will he potentially miss time due to injury? How much salary does he want? Can we continue to field a competitive team despite that salary? Those are all the same questions we had back in 2012 (without the catastrophic concern that he could potentially be paralyzed with a direct blow to the head/neck due to his condition/surgery)
And you don't think 3 years of play in the NFL and what we saw at the end of this season impacts that?
Not really... you still have people here saying this team would have won the SB had Schaub been healthy in 2011 (which I don't necessarily agree with either). So, which is it? You have a potential SB winning QB in 2011 if he's healthy, or you have a team that for-sure should have replaced him after that season with the unknown in Manning? I think people are playing from both sides of the fence in that argument...
please provide some evidence because rick the rat was on board with oakland's 3rd string qb just as much as kubes & old man mcnair.
No I do not.... I said I would have rather had Manning than wait around on O'Brien like most reasonable fans would. You're reading too much into what I said and getting defensive about it. Sabin bombed out as a head coach in Miami by the way. And Romeo is a huge reason why the Texans year was as good as it was so give him his credit like y'all gave Wade.
Sure it does... just like multiple neck surgeries that keep you out an entire year! In a sport where people get neck injuries/paralyzed from direct blows without those pre-existing conditions. Its not exactly the same... but 3 years of age raises the same concerns. You also know that Manning was still playing at an MVP level as of 8 weeks ago, so there's still a chance (just like in 2012 when you knew Manning was playing at an MVP level as of 2010).
So, again... who would you have chosen as your head coach since you don't feel BOB is the right coach to lead this team forward, and deserves little to none of the credit for this season's record/results? Lastly, if you consider Saban as "bombing" in his stint with the Dolphins (W/L = 16-17), what would you consider Belichick's Cleveland stint? You probably would be complaining about his hire as a retread from the Parcells' coaching tree that bears nothing but fruit that is "rotten".
Agreed... and they're still clinging if they state that this team would have been a SB team in 2011 if he had stayed healthy. But if those same people are saying they should have signed Peyton in 2012, I see a direct contradiction there.
There are no links to the streets that I can show you dude... But like I said _ It's no secret. The word that Ricky wanted Manning has always been out. McNair had to go on radio to put out the 'Manning fire' that Ricky started.
it was over when schaub rolled his foot. 11-1 start right? then down hill from there. Any team to not sign a player (manning) who had a higher ceiling than schaub would ever achieve is not a risk taker. That's why i dont' support the Texans. All their WEAK, conservative signings when they should have been going long. All the times they tried to go large but should have gone conservative (ie jason babin what was that trade). This franchise was doomed from the start. True they have some class acts on the team, WATT, and some star potential in Hopkins. If they wanted to make a splash this year, they should have traded down for Sammy Watkins and told AJ80 to be the slot receiver. Clowney is a bust. He reminds me of Kelvin Cato of the rockets. All this talent but he's LAZY.
So why is it unreasonable to you that someone may approach things differently after 3 more years? Those 3 years don't magically disappear. Now you have all the considerations of those neck surgeries from before 2012, plus 3 more years of play, plus an older Manning, plus either a visible decline at the end of this season or another injury that forced that decline. It completely makes sense that the gamble on Manning in 2015 is different than the one in 2012.
No... I would have been more concerned with winning and not concerned with who the head coach would be two year later. You're using hindsight as an argument here dude.
Does it? Did you think Manning would play at an MVP level again after the neck surgeries and prior to 2012 (let alone an MVP level in 2012, 2013 and half of 2014)? If so, kudos to you... but you'd be in the drastic minority. Hell, the Colts may have won another SB with THAT Manning, and even though they're set-up with Luck for the next decade, that may not guarantee any SB wins. To me, its pretty similar. If you sign Manning now, you're banking he can get back to being the player he was for the first half of this season... just like in 2012 you were hoping he would be able to make it through a full season, let alone return to an MVP level.
you're making things up. clearly you cant even find a tweet backing up your outlandish claim. rick the rat is an idiot. idiots reject manning and extend schaub. proof is in the pudding, bruh.
Ok... so O'Brien's going to be a failure because he came from the Belichick coaching tree (despite the college HC experience), but career-coordinator Zimmer is a for-sure success, why again? You might as well have suggested Norv Turner (who you'd probably attribute all the Viking's success to, just like you're attributing the Texans success simply to Romeo). You're talking out of your ass again....
Yes, it does. You have all those similarities you have mentioned, plus another 3 years of wear and age in Manning and either a visible decline during games or another injury that lead to that decline. You can't ignore those things when you are sitting down to make a decision in 2015. And those variables didn't exist in 2012.
I'm not... and you also can't ignore the biggest variable in 2012 was whether or not Manning's surgically repaired neck could even withstand another game/let alone 3 seasons. The neck is sound... the immediate post-op concerns are gone... that's where I'm coming from. Everybody would have wanted Manning in 2012 had he had an injury to his foot/leg or non throwing arm... but what he had caused a lot more legitimate concern at the time, just like you're concerned about 3 years of "wear-tear" (when he was still playing at an MVP level as of 8 weeks ago).
