You don't act on those unless they themselves act. We've been very fortunate that hate groups in the US don't really commit major and frequent attacks of terror. KKK? White supremacist groups. Westboro. They do everything within the confines of the law. Islamic radicals change things a bit.
no it has nothing to do with the scripture even in our current day being interpreted as murder all the infidels
not true. In fact, since 9/11, there have been more police officers and people killed by those espousing radical right-wing views in America, most prominently white supremacy, than those espousing jihadist views, and that includes Fort Hood. http://securitydata.newamerica.net/extremists/deadly-attacks Altogether, the dead number to 65 recorded by that site, which as an aside, is less than a hundreth of a percent of the people who died EACH YEAR because of lack of health insurance.
This is a very valid point for France, which despite its strengths, often shows a very European bend towards freedom of speech that tends to be quite discretionary at times.
Well in many Muslim countries beheading infidels or stoning women because they were raped isn't a crime.
That's true, feel free to side with terrorists as to defining crime all you like, it's not something I'm prepared to do. There is a parallel here to the Martin case though. Martin didn't like that someone was following him and looking at him so he decided to break the law and assault him, in this case, the 2 terrorists didn't like the cartoons that were being published so they decided to break the law and kill them. It's only consistent that you see the terrorists as the victim in this case.
Outrage as France become first country in world to ban pro-Palestine demos http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ce-country-world-ban-pro-Palestine-demos.html France has a history of stringent laws on freedom of expression that leads to situations like the above. It's a wrong, and pointing to worser wrongs in other places won't change that fact.
Want to post what Bobby actually said. The problem is RR cannot understand the difference between beating someone and drawing a cartoon.
This is a convenient talking point except it doesn't fit the reality. Paris Suspect Was Quickly 'Radicalized' in 2005, Filmmaker Says Cherif Kouachi, one of the two brothers accused of carrying out the bloody attack on the satirical weekly magazine Charlie Hebdo, was just a troubled French kid until he met a Islamist activist who "radicalized" him a decade ago, a filmmaker who researched Kouachi for a documentary told NBC News on Thursday. Magalie Ferre, who made the film for France 3 television in 2005, said Kouachi never appeared to be interested in religion until he met Farid Benyettou, with whom he was convicted along with five other men for helping funnel fighters to Iraq in 2008. Benyettou, then a 26-year-old preacher, was the subject of the documentary. "His evolution was very quick," Ferre said of Kouachi. "He met Farid Benyettou in 2004, and in six months he changed and he tried to go to Iraq." She said Kouachi was "shocked" by the images of abuse of detainees by U.S. forces at the Iraqi prison at Abu Ghraib and "wanted to help his Muslim brothers." http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/pa...ickly-radicalized-2005-filmmaker-says-n282591 Cherif Kouachi and Said Kouachi were born to Algerian Muslim immigrants in Paris but grew up not especially religious after they were orphaned. The two were radicalized after the start of the Iraq war in 2003 and were arrested in 2005 for belonging to a Paris-based terrorist network. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...pect-pot-smoking-loser-lawy-article-1.2070082 French radio station RTL says that it called the market Friday after authorities say Coulibaly took customers and workers hostage. Coulibaly apparently took the call and then tried to hang up, the station says, but the line remained open. In a recording of what followed, a man the station identifies as Coulibaly holds a dialogue with others -- apparently hostages -- in which he says he attacked because the French military has attacked Muslims in the Middle East and Mali, including ISIS militants. "I was born in France. If they didn't attack other countries, I wouldn't be here," a voice says in RTL's recording. The man purported to be Coulibaly, 32, apparently argued with hostages about taxes, RTL's recording shows. "You pay taxes, so that means you agree" with France's actions in Mali and the Middle East, the apparent gunman says in the recording. http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/10/world/france-market-shooting-scene/ Interesting that Coulibaly used BobbytheGreat logic to justify his terrorism. Nice.
This is a convenient talking point except it doesn't fit the reality. Paris Suspect Was Quickly 'Radicalized' in 2005, Filmmaker Says Cometswin Don't confuse Mr. Clutch with facts or nuance. He will stick with they hate us because of our cartoons , freedom, religion and our foreign policy has nothing to do with any of this.
I don't know how they can deal with what's going on other than utilizing the fact that the French don't have the privacy freedoms that countries like America has... I expect France to start doing a better job of monitoring people. If there's a dime to be made in going to war you best believe the US will go to that war... But even if the US would stop all activity over there that wouldn't stop the acts of terrorism.The fighting over there wouldn't stop just because the US goes home. Plus I'm pretty sure they're probably not getting Israel back either.
only way to fight radical islam is to plant tolerant muslim leaders in key positions and have them spreadout throughout the muslim world. re-shape the faith from within. with some powerful leaders, i say within 20-30 years you could significantly change islam to the point that these radicals would be super niche. so much so that host countries (with new version of islam) would keep pretty good tabs on them. in fact isis, isil, et. all are the one currently infiltrating moderate groups and changing the culture to more extreme. they beat us to the punch but we got to be smart and flip the script. the wrong thing to do is openly campaign against and bomb muslim countries. this advances and accelerates the extremism.
Saying that the iraq war was the single and only inlfuence is ridiculous. It took a muslim radical meeting with him to change him. Miss that part? My guess is his economic prospects weren't bright either and that he hasn't bought into the French culture. I'm not surprised that glynch thinks people are so easily manipulated. Hence his statist tendencies
No you're right. Terrorists are attacking cartoonists in Paris because of the 2005 Iraq war. Has nothing to do with the extreme ideology that has sprung up in certain parts. Oh wait, that's America's fault too.
This attack was because of the cartoons. These people are extremists because of the Iraq War. Hence, if they weren't extremists bent on terrorism they wouldn't have attacked about cartoons. There, I connected the dots for you. You're welcome.
