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[Official] Off Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. rezdawg

    rezdawg Member

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    Yeah, no...since trades for players rarely happen. But, I'm sure he'd have the option to sign with half a dozen teams when he gets released.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    So then you are now admitting that you were wrong all season and that he actually did have a good season? Now we're making progress.

    I would agree that it's an outlier, and I wouldn't expect him to be that successful again, and wouldn't argue that. He did have a very solid season though and more often than not was good enough for the Texans to have won. That's really all you can ask.
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    No I'm saying his stats were inflated. He wasn't as good as the stats suggest.

    As far as your second paragraph. Nothing to disagree there.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Fair enough, then that brings us back to the pass protection, it wasn't as good as the stat suggested they were. It was pretty poor most of the season, hence why the O line coach was canned. I just wanted to see if you'd hand waive the same stat you used to defend the O line when it was applied to Fitz.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    Or maybe it was better than the stats suggested.

    I think that for penalized for a lot of Fitz's problems holding onto the ball too long. When it was a bad play by Fitz, the advanced stats penalized the ol.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, don't change.
     
  7. Mr. Clutch

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    Fitz was also not penalized enough for things like turning a 2nd goal at the 2 into 3rd and long.

    He also had no deep ball to speak of whatsoever.
     
  8. Remii

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    Yes he definitely will... As a backup. Like he supposed to be.
     
  9. Nick

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    Buffalo needs a QB with Orton retired... wouldn't surprise me if he ended up back there if/once he's released.
     
  10. tmactoyao

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    wait does he still like buffalo? i know he was very emotional when he played against them this season lol
     
  11. rezdawg

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    Lets look at completions that went for 40+ yards, shall we?

    Fitz had 8 completions out of his 312 attempts that went for 40 or more yards.

    That is a better rate than Andrew Luck, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Matt Stafford, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Tom Brady, Jay Cutler, and pretty much any other big named arm outside of Aaron Rodgers.

    In fact, Drew Brees had only 2 more completions of 40+ yards despite 347 more pass attempts. Let that sink in for a second.

    It's amazing how much bias plays a role in what is perceived to what is reality.
     
  12. rezdawg

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    No team that is young and looking to improve is going to look to him as a starter...you're not saying anything remotely ground breaking. No team will want to start a 32 year old QB when they are trying to find a franchise QB.

    Fact of the matter, whether you like it or not, is that Fitz was at least a top 20 QB in the NFL this season no matter how you slice it. Just deal with it.

    I know he has no future with the Texans...I understand his limitations. Unfortunately, you have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that you talked so much smack about him through the year, when he was actually producing better than a good portion of NFL starting QBs. I know it's difficult to admit it. But, you'll look better in the end for it.
     
  13. Remii

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    Why is being a top 20 quarterback (as you say) such an achievement... Why do you stop your list at 20 instead of 10 or 12... 20 teams don't make the playoffs. I always stated Fitzpatrick wasn't good enough and a F'up and he's done nothing to change that. They mostly won despite of him and not because of him and I do admit I didn't believe the Texans would be able to do that.
     
  14. rezdawg

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    Football is a team game...Drew Brees didnt make the playoffs, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, etc...

    You can be a top 5 QB and not make the playoffs...or you can be a bottom 10-12 QB and make the playoffs (Andy Dalton).

    The whole point in all this is that Fitz didnt suck like you and many others try to point out on a weekly basis. Nobody is saying he's an awesome QB. But, he is better than a good portion of NFL starting QBs. That's all that's being said...but then a handful of you keep claiming he was terrible or that he should be a back up NFL QB. And if that were actually the case, then the NFL would really only have about 16-18 starters even though there are 32 teams. Makes sense.
     
  15. Remii

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    He should be a backup quarterback in the NFL and O'Brien tried to return him to his backup status for Mallet when the Texans were still in playoff contention... But, I'm too depressed to argue with you about this subject after watching Luck's team beat the breaks of Manning's much better all around team.

    We're debating for F'n nothing...
     
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    man the broncos defense can't even smell luck's neckbeard after shave. i'm happy that we had wade and now romeo. our d forced flacco,romo, luck twice to turn the ball over. we're not that far away with how our defense is being built. must improve on special teams and have a consistent 3,500 yd passer, with 26 tds and 13ints.

    i say this because there is going to be a lot of blah blah look at the colts feel sorry for houston talk tomorrow. i look at it this way. our division is damn good . afc championship team and us, who they needed an onsides kick, an andre mishap and posey ticky tacky hold to win.
     
  17. Angkor Wat

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    I actually think thats pretty accurate. If you look at the Top 18 Starting QBs and the bottom 14, those bottom 14 are either backups/fringe starters or young, unproven QBs.
     
  18. IronTexan93

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    Buuuuuut, there is just two NFL teams in our division. The others are just High School teams.
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    Just 8? Very small sample.

    How many of those were in the air? That's the real question.

    If Foster or Hopkins turned short passes into long completions, its not impressive.
     
  20. rezdawg

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    You can say the same thing about every QB on the list. For example, how many short passes did Demaryius take to the house? It's very rare for Qbs to consistently connect on deep balls. The only people who think that's common are the ones that only watch highlights and not full length games. Rodgers does it consistently, but Fitz did it at the same rate or better than most Qbs. And 8 shouldn't be the sample size... We're talking about 300+ attempts for Fitz and 500+ attempts for those that played the full season.
     

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