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It comes down to Dwight and Milkhair

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rileydog, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

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    No. It comes down to a better philosophy. They want this offense to run thru Harden's hands and it's not going to work. Stats talk is bologney. Stats are for blind people.
     
  2. Rocket River

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    but DMo is?

    Rocket River
     
  3. Rileydog

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    That's my view.
     
  4. Texanasiafan

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    And Kobe called Dwight SOFT.

    And they all played together in one of the worse and painful season in the Lakers' history.

    It doesn't take rocket science to figure out they won't invite each others to their thanksgiving party.
     
  5. KlutchQT

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    Did you actually read the article? Pretty sure Pau wasn't trying to insult him, and what he said was true.
     
  6. RedSnipe

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    I agree with the Rileydog 100% on Dwight. But there some other issues as well....

    1) I think D-Mo is a better post player than Dwight. Donatas may not have the power of Dwight but he has much much better foot work. I still like Dwight but we need to get D-Mo more touches.This could be touchy for Dwight...

    2) Isiah Canaan did really well starting while Bev was out and its not that I think Bev is bad, but maybe he needs to come off the bench? I'm not sold on Terry running the point off the bench. Now Bev coming off the bench can be like a nice uppercut...

    3) Ariza and Josh Smith must be working on their brick masonry certifications. I don't want to see them shooting any more threes. McHale can start Brewer or Kostas for Ariza to wake him up. Josh Giveth, Josh Taketh. He's a wild card out there. I don't like that. Chicago wouldn't even guard Smith on the perimeter. They were happy for him to take some of those perimeter shots..

    Yes we have the talent to win it all but McHale has some work to do to get the most out of this team and I think there has to be some tough love conversations...He may need to give Bill Fitch a call for some advice. :grin:
     
  7. heypartner

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    Don't you think, between the two, the elite defender is better used starting the game against the opposing team's starter? Bring the shooter off the bench, so you can hide his poor defense against the backup PGs.

    but also, it's a number's game. With how well Brewer is playing, he needs to get nearly all the SG backup minutes and SF backup minutes. Canaan is odd man out at PG unless you drop Terry's minutes.
     
  8. fattz

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    Howard has a lot of VALUE. So Harden Dmo & what we could get in return for him --> A younger max player, solid role player & picks. Bledsoe, Len plus Lakers & Twolves picks

    This one trade makes a solid young core with a bright future and more to come--> the high lottery picks for the future. We have not had the chance to get nice young talent (5 - 10 range) in years. Plus puts three players hitting their primes around the same time.
    ...for...
    Some one who appears not to care (maybe he does - I am not him) but has all the talent in the world but stills plays like a rookie in many ways.
     
  9. daywalker02

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    Dwight is declining in front of our eyes and trying to do much in the post.

    McHair is a huge question mark of how good of a coach he can become.

    Two huge question marks
     
  10. DaDakota

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    LOL - I wish - no, the point was that Dwight takes on a lessor more supportive role like Robinson did.....

    I actually think TJones should start and DMo should play backup Center - as an eventual Dwight replacement.

    DD
     
  11. Rokman

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    It appears that Dwight is struggling due to knee issues. Because of that, he needs to allow Motiejunas to absorb some more of the offensive burden to create more longevity for his career. I think what is hurting us more than anything is Ariza's lack of production on the offensive end. How do you keep defenses honest with your stars when you're not hitting your shots? Come on Ariza. Flip it to killer mode and start scoring like you're capable of!
     
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  12. archinkent

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    Dwight was pushed to 3rd option on offense behind Kobe and Gasol when he was a Laker, says it all really. It will help the team, but he ain't gonna be happy.
     
  13. bro2044

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    Its sad that they're whats holding us back. I agree with a lot of whats in this post, and I just wish Dwight would either make quicker decisions (make his move quickly or pass/pass and reposition) or take more PICK AND ROLLS because thats an effective part of basketball that gives us faster and more efficient points! Its such a ridiculous ego thing to demand the ball in the post when you dont have a variety of post moves. At least Shaq had a turnaround (albeit one-handed) along with his hook and dunks. Howard has...a hook and sometimes a spin. Too many times he dribbles, energetically and sloppily, and loses the ball or forces himself into a bleh shot because he's not a great passer out of the post.

    And i hope he NEVER gets the ball towards the end of games. There's nothing worse than an big man with few post moves that shoots FTs terribly...and that your GO-TO guy in the last few mins. Ugh, horrible. Give me Harden and DMO all the time at the end of games, with doses of Terry hitting from outside.

    and McHale... dammit I want to like him, but we run no offensive plays and our last-few-minute offense is obvious and inefficient. Unless we're getting FTs and hitting 3s... its too tough for us to win.

    Harden became a better player this year by ISO-ing less, making better decisions overall, and playing better D. His intelligence and sacrifice made us better as well as himself.

    Its time for Howard to do the same.

    He was beasting in last year's playoffs tho, moreso than Harden, so thats the Dwight I'm waiting for.
     
  14. bro2044

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    true, but I'm sure most of that unhappiness was brought about by Kobe. No ego like that on this team.
     
  15. Rockets FTW

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    I don't think he's 100% and his being out for weeks proves it. Let him play back into the team and get his feel back.

    Team is still gelling, so patience is a must.

    We are DEEP. I'm sure once we get rolling... Dwight will realize what needs to be done.

    Heck... Morey might even make a few more moves before the deadline and T Jones might be back at sometime in Feb/March.

    Let Dwight get his feel and the touches. It keeps teams honest... especially if he hits.
     
  16. Rockets FTW

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    And where is all this Dwight declining coming from????? Chill out. The guy is still getting it together.
     
  17. donkeypunch

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    For everybody saying that dwert has an ailment of some sort, be it the knee or shoulder or whatever else he says and thats why he cant perform to full capacity:

    Dwight said it himself, not to an injury extent but an extent none the less- guys need to stop being selfish and take themselves out of the game to rest if they felt tired or sluggish since we have a bench that can rotate. Well.... If he has an ailment, he needs to take himself out of the lineup or at least take himself out of being a major offensive cog and let the MVP and DMO handle the first and second offensive options.
     
  18. daywalker02

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    Watch him in Orlando and you know where that is coming from.

    The same with Tmac. Tmac was Jordanesque with the Magics but he was only 90% in his first two years and playoffs

    Then he declined rapidly.
     
  19. tycoonchip

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    I do not think this is completely on Dwight needing to take more of a step back. In fact I tgink he already has taken too many steps back to help guys like DMo and Josh Smith get acclimated and hence we are not doing as well. I don't think this is completely Dwight and Mchale's fault though and this is why we are trying hard to get a guy like Dragic on this team. Parsons was exceptionally good at getting Dwight the ball along side Harden. Ariza and Beverly are not. I am hoping Josh can improve on this aspect and not be as much of a black hole as many have claimed him to be. Papa however, if he can improve his shot, has been great at it as well. He is the reason why I feel like we did so well early in the season. Papa needs to get more minutes or we need to find a way to get a player like Dragic who can get Dwight the ball.
     
  20. daywalker02

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    BTW Screw Gasoft

    He played great in the beginning as a Laker but then he got soft
     

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