Jackson is shooting 42% from the field and 27% from 3. Why does everyone want him? He's an average PG at best. I'd rather have Bev at half the salary, 40% 3 point shooting, and better defense.
Besides....the idea of trading for Jackson when OKC is making a push for the playoffs (and will make the playoffs barring another key injury) is ludicrous unless OKC got back both a future pick and a player that could help them be a better team right now. Only way Jackson gets traded for a pick is if OKC is out of the playoff picture at the deadline.
How about we give JSmooth and w.e. else to OKC for Jackson, Marrow, and Perkins. We all win and lose together.
Let's compare Rubio's shooting numbers to Bev, a guy who we probably both consider to be a subpar offensive player. Rubio shoots about 30% of his shots as a long 2, and shoots only 35% on those shots. Bev, by comparison, shoots about 5% of his shots at that range. Rubio also only shoots 47% (!!!) at the rim. Bev, by comparison, shoots 58% at the rim. (Can you imagine Smith and Rubio and Ariza on the court at the same time? My goodness that halfcourt offense would be bad.) That's a substantial difference between Rubio and a subpar offensive player. Will Rubio have the ball enough and be able to create enough (and well enough) to make up for his scoring deficiencies? I don't know either way at this point (who could) but I would lean towards No, he will not. FTR, I'm not of the opinion that we need to have an off-ball, jump-shooting PG. (But of course I'd rather have one who can play off ball than one who cannot.) I'm also not of the opinion that Harden ought to be the sole playmaker on the court 90% of the time. So I would like to see us get another PG who can and would take the ball out of Harden's hands some *cough*Dragic*cough* but Rubio is not that guy. Not even close. Really, I can think of no worse fit for PG for the Rockets than Rubio. With that said... if it's for the right price? Sure, why not. Just like Josh Smith. Over the years here I've taken a dump on Josh Smith every time I mentioned his name. But for $2 million per year? Hell yes I'll take that. So same goes for Rubio. Unfortunately, I don't see him settling for anything less than the max and I wouldn't be shocked if some bad, desperate GM gave it to him. Also, do you - or anyone else - know where I can find an offensive player's halfcourt stats? I'd like to see how Rubio does in the halfcourt compared to others.
Agree with Haymitch. I don't think the Rockets NEED to have a non-playmaking jumpshooter at PG. However, if my choices are between a non-playmaking jumpshooter and a non shooting playmaker, I'll choose the jumpshooter for this tea. Ideally I want a player who do both but that is comfortable being off the ball and taking shots. A good shooter who can be called upon to run the offense at times as well without needing Harden to do it. I don't think Rubio is that guy nor do I think Rondo was that guy.
Your horse has turned into a nag. Rubio is the right fit for the wrong team; this is the right team and the right fit is ________ ? Also not Rondo. Calderon (oops, salary), Dragic (oops, getability). Who else might actually be a fit and 'out-there' in the next month or so?
I agree with this. I've mentioned this before but I think Mario Chalmers would be a really good fit with us. He did that role with the Heat when they won the championship and he can do that here with Harden.
Then you're advocating not acquiring anybody if you don't want a non-shooting playmaker. Because we've already got a non-playmaking shooter in Beverley. So you're basically saying get a guy that can shoot and make plays or don't get anybody. And frankly, I think that would be a mistake. While Dragic would be great...if him or another 2-way PG isn't available that can both shoot and make plays for others then we need still need to acquire another playmaker. So why not get the best defensive playmaker we possibly can? What most of you guys aren't understanding about a guy like Rubio (or Rondo when he was available) is that if we trade for him we're getting 2 shooters. We're getting Harden and Terry both playing off the ball, Terry all the time, and Harden part of the time. I don't know what 2 shooters are available on the market that would help us more than those guys spotting up.
Saying that Harden is a going to be a shooter spacing the floor for Rubio is like saying Jack Nicholson was a supporting actor for Shelley Duvall in the Shining.
Also ignoring the fact that if Rubio can't and won't shoot, they aren't going to guard him, ie less spacing for Harden and Terry to get open.
Just FYI on Rubio, the Wolves already extended his contract in November. So he is no longer an upcoming FA. 4yr / 56M.
Awesome, take the ball out of the MVP's hands for a player that isn't even top 10 in his position. This guy...
I was on board with Rondo/Rubio earlier in the year. Harden is an incredible playmaker, #plowwiththeMVP, but if we pass on Rondo for a dime on the dollar and trade for Rubio using serious assets that would be frustrating. Playmaking is less important with JSmoove off the bench and 3-point shooting just became increasingly important as we need to get him and DMO off the 3-point line. We don't need a lights out shooter but we need someone who can knock it down from deep if left open. Still believe perimeter playmaking is our biggest need because relying on Smoove, even as the off-the-bench, distributor is a scary proposition. With that said & with this current squad, I think a Lawson/Holiday (as opposed to the ideal Gogi Berry) have enough historical data to prove that they can knock the open 3 ball and distribute as opposed to a Wicky who is far more one-dimensional.
cyberx is a great insider but from what I've seen doesn't exactly have a keen eye for basketball analytics, which is not necessary to be a great agent/insider.
I agree. Also, Jackson is six months away from getting a boatload of $ as a restricted free agent. There will be at least one team willing to pay this guy max money, or very close to max money. No, thank you. It will be interesting to see what OKC does with him. Here are some veteran guards who were, the last time I checked, shooting at least 33.0% from three point range, and who I consider to be available via trade: Kevin Martin Nick Young Anthony Morrow Joe Johnson Ben McLemore Gerald Green Garrett Temple Kentavious Caldwell-Pope Arron Afflalo Jeremy Lamb Tim Hardaway, Jr. Alan Anderson IMO, the ideal move is to trade for Goran Dragic, which means you give all 96 guard minutes to three players: Dragic, James Harden, and Patrick Beverley. Alternatively (i.e., if you cannot pry Dragic loose), you have to look at trading for one of the guys listed above. Arron Afflalo will opt out of his contract after the season and become an unrestricted free agent, and Denver is a non-playoff team, so they will not look to re-sign him. He will cost less than Dragic, via trade. Isaiah Canaan + Jason Terry's expiring contract might be enough for Denver. Gerald Green also hits unrestricted free agency this summer, and will fetch even less than Afflalo. Then you have Jeremy Lamb, who is clearly unappreciated for whatever reason by Oklahoma City, an organization that makes increasingly questionable personnel decisions, e.g., trading for the vomit-inducing Dion Waiters. Lamb is a nice, young, and cheap two-way player whose team is going to need to free up $ to re-sign Reggie Jackson. My prediction is that Houston eventually (by the February 19 trade deadline) trades for Dragic, or Lawson, but if not, Arron Afflalo is a guy to keep an eye on. Definitely an upgrade over Terry, Canaan, and Alexey Shved, and he will not cost an arm and a leg.
