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Why aren't we as fans demanding more

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Angelc11, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. marky :)

    marky :) Member

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    Oh yeah? Not Rockets but last I remember, when Matt Schaub got hurt a whole lot of cheering went on in the stadium. Is that how you want us to express our dissatisfaction?
     
  2. LCAhmed

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    Is OP not satisfied with how things are going with the Rockets? I imagine since this is in the GARM, he doesn't like the 23-11 start to the season. Or that our GM tried to get us a championship caliber team in the offseason by taking a gamble, then once he lost on that gamble, still managed to build a championship contender (in my opinion). Heaven forbid we missed a majority of our starting 5 during the first quarter of our season, and havent had our starting PF (Jones) all season. Yet we somehow luck out and get another shot at a piece to take us over the top (Smith).

    YES! Let us boo the organization that took us from post yao chitfest of Lin-Kmart-Parsons-Patterson-Asik to Beverly-Harden-Ariza-DMo/Smith-Howard. How horrible things are for us! Can't believe we're not 34-0. THE SHAME.
     
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    It would take all Americans boycotting them for sometime and frankly if Americans actually come together for something, it better be for something better than NBA reffing. Just understand that it's an entertainment business and 95% of the bulls' fans have no problem with how that game was called last night.
     
  4. Rip Van Rocket

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    An entire section of haters, chanting their complaints during the game. Maybe they could sit right next to the red rowdies. Should be interesting.
     
  5. wfeebs

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    The Red "Pouties"
     
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  6. TheJet

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    You can't compare what happens/works in other countries sports to the US. You just can't. If you're that dissatisfied with the moves an organization has made I would email, call, write letters, etc. to at least get your voice out there. It takes a LOT for fans to influence what an organization does, primarily because most of the time the majority of fans don't know what the hell they're talking about. The small minority of hard core, sports savvy fans (like most of clutchfans) does not represent the whole. Not even close. That's why I stopped going to sports bars to watch games. Unless I'm already with a group of friends it's rare that I meet a casual fan that really understands the game(s).

    So, for a focus group to work it would require some vetting of the members to insure that you were getting a good cross section of knowledgeable, loyal fans and not the "Player X sucks, trade him!" comments we see so often online. And even if you managed to assemble a fairly well represented group who's to say the organization will act on suggestions? Hell I remember questioning the JJ Watt pick a few years ago because I didn't have a large sample size of his college career. Even us hardcore folks are wrong more often than not.

    I'd be curious as to how this succeeds in other countries. Is there proof that these suggestions/chants are generating changes?
     
  7. pmac

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    So much this!

    OP, what you're describing does happen in the NBA, at least the chants. Fans have been known to boo their own team, the refs, and even call an opposing team's player MVP. Do you want to know why you haven't seen it in Houston? It's because the Rockets are a well run organization. They make good smart moves that often times leave us fans in awe either at the moment or sometime in the future.
     
  8. J Hard

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    Nah, it's just him and many brainwashed like him.

    That's a great idea, the fans are the lifeblood to owners/front office/athletes success so we should certainly have a platform.
     
  9. napalm06

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    Ouch. Coming on a little strong?
     
  10. pippendagimp

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    he probably doesn't even have a passport :grin:
     
  11. joeson332

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    because I'm busy trying to get MY life together
     
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    Yea since the fans play the game :rolleyes:

    Really this has to be one of the most idiotic things I've read. You really think New England or Denver or Seattle are so good because their fans have a more "winning" attitude? Come on now man. Houston fans show displeasure just as much as the next city. Do you not remember the boos that showered down on Matt Schaub and Kubiak last season? If there is something to be pissed off about, Houston fans will voice it.
     
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  13. Ranny

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    This is wrong in so many levels.... and by the way not only are you wrong about South Americans, but most European countries are considered "first world", hence most of the people have steady jobs and decent incomes just like in the US and yet the behavior of the fans is the same or similar as in South America.

    The passion that football (soccer) fans feel for their teams its just different to what US sports fans feel for theirs, i don't know how to describe it, its just much much much much more intense. I guess its a social issue, people feel ridiculously identified with their teams to levels that are difficult to explain, its like these are nations within nations, you have to consider that most of the big/traditional teams on each European and South American countries are pretty old, some of them over 100 years old, and in many cases being a fan of these teams is a family matter, you are a fan of the team because your father was, and he was because his father was and so on. Also the regional rivalries are much stronger because teams are closer to each other, in most big cities there are minimum two big teams and some very big cities like London or Buenos Aires for example have many many teams, each neighborhood has a professional team and they hate each other, not the kind of Dallas versus Houston hate, i mean they really dislike each other to a extreme that unfortunately can get very violent, this last part is not good by any means but you can see how much their teams mean to them.

    Now the "fans making decisions" thing that is a myth or very rare at the most, fans never get to decide daily important things like who gets traded or who to sign. Much like the NBA or NFL some teams have owners, and front offices that make all the decisions, some teams also exist under a different system which is that they do not have owners, they are not companies but instead they are clubs and have members and every certain period of time (usually 4 years) they have elections in which the members, usually fans, vote and decide who gets to run the team for the next four years, examples of these are Real Madrid or FC Barcelona, and the vast majority of South American teams. This means that if fans disprove of the President/GM's decisions they do get to vote them out and appoint somebody who offers a more attractive future for their teams, this is the biggest involvement fans have in big decisions in these kind of teams, but for the time the president is appointed fans ideas are rarely followed.

    What does happen pretty much everywhere is that teams have large organized fan bases which chant all the time, and i do mean ALL the time!! And when they do or do not like somebody they are very vocal about it, and then its a matter of the player's mental strength to either succumb to the pressure or actually thrive under it, i have seen players that are playing horribly get screamed at by 50k people get their $hit together because of it and also others who just play even worse, this says a lot about the player's character. Fans pressure in the stands also affects the outcome and decisions the actors in the field make, for example we see people complaining about McHale's decisions all the time here, but has the entire Toyota center ever recriminated McHale decisions? I have seen soccer stadiums packed with 50 thousand people where EVERYBODY boos and disapproves a coach's decision when he screws up forcing him to correct his mistake.
     
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    #Rockets Fans Matter
     
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    It's very unfortunate that most americans think this way. This guy probably never left the US and doesn't even know how the world really is.
     
  16. IvanLCPM

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    This.
     
  17. LabMouse

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    American media only talks USA, not others, bit of the UK royal family, North Korea. So most Americans have no interest in knowing outside.

     
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    South Americans don't have hobbies?

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    Replying to stereotyping with stereotyping. Well played.

    I think.
     
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