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Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Rockets1616, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. crash5179

    crash5179 Member

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    I thought I would pass this along. I have no idea who he is talking about, but Du'Vonta Lampkin has been pretty accurate on his predictions so far.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Texas is getting another commit tonight <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HookEm?src=hash">#HookEm</a></p>&mdash; January 7th (@DeeChilllin) <a href="https://twitter.com/DeeChilllin/status/551869973380227073">January 4, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  2. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    So is the recruiting now on par what Mack Brown was doing, less than Brown, or was Brown doing or better?
     
  3. Brando2101

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    Brown recruited well until the end of the Colt Mccoy era. One of the "best recruiting classes of all time" won a national championship 3 years after they came in and could have competed if VY stayed. They also were a win away from OU in 04 for playing in a national championship.

    The Colt team was a win over Tech away from a national championship appearance in 08. They were in the game against Alabama despite him going down in 09. I think they would have won with him in there.

    He had some wins after Colt like Gray, Hicks, Jeffcoat and the two Browns but overall the classes weren't fantastic.

    Time will tell with Strong but this is a great start.
     
  4. peleincubus

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    it's trending upwards. But not close yet to Mack.

    USC and UT were easily the top in the least 15 years.
     
  5. gucci888

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    Agreed on the first part but Saban has had a Top 10 recruiting class 8 years in a row, including the #1 ranked class 5 years straight. He's going into Florida, Texas, and Cali and handpicking their best.
     
  6. leroy

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    Hopefully the main difference will be that these recruits actually get coached. Mack's problem was never bringing them to Texas. It was what he did (or better yet, didn't) do when they got there.
     
  7. HamJam

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    Also, I think you also have to do a better job of scouting. I often felt like Mack and his staff didn't even bother to evaluate players and would just look at how many stars the consumer scouting websites gave a player. You rarely saw them go out and get an underrated player who they saw something in that Scouts Inc or Rivals missed, or saw a kid playing the wrong position and recruited him to a different position he would excel at (the way Briles is famed for doing).
     
  8. LabMouse

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    Mack was never considered to be a great coach, but his recruiting job was great, which resulted in a title for UT. Current team was just bad, never see such a bad UT team in last ten years. As for this Texas Bowl game, some fans were speechless, but lots of fans were just drinking, eating, talking, they do not much care if the team is going to win or not. Overall, college games are just for social, UT will be fine even if they are not good.

     
  9. Brando2101

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    9 straight years of 10 win seasons and he wasn't a great coach? I've been to the ends of the earth defending Mack so I won't start another debate about it. I'll just say that you can't find another run like that in the entire history of Texas football. Again, i'll refrain from saying anymore since there are much more relevant things to discuss.
     
  10. Icehouse

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    No, he wasn't. With all the talent at his disposal, titles (plural) should have occured for a great coach. Do you see what Saban has done with elite talent? That's an example of great coaching.
     
  11. Brando2101

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    For the sake of this thread, letting it go.
     
  12. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Mack Brown was a damn good coach that also relied on others. One of the last of the CEO coaches. Nothing wrong with being a CEO.
     
  13. Brando2101

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    Charlie Strong's press conference after the bowl game was interesting. He again said that the team was not prepared and practicing like he needed them to. It seems like he is looking forward to losing the next couple classes of players so he is primarily working with his own recruits.

    Guys on the radio in Austin believe there are likely only 5 scholarship spots left this year (6 max). They have a good amount of offers still out. Hope we don't potentially lose out on any guys that want to draw out their decision to the last day.
     
  14. Airdough

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    Mack came within an implosion by Simms in 2001 of playing for a National Title, a split second late read by a corner from playing for the title in 2008, and a McCoy shoulder injury/blown blocking assignment from beating Saban in 2009. Virtually every program in America during the 2001 to 2009 timeframe would have gladly switched places with Texas.

    Strong looks to be turning things around but he has a long ways to go before catching Mack in the sustained success department.
     
  15. peleincubus

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    yeah i guess you are right. the last 5 years or so have been a blur.

    work. having a child. school. applewhite and simms was quite a long time ago now.
     
  16. peleincubus

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    actually i just looked at rivals and this is their class ranking since 2008.

    08 #1
    09 #5
    10 #1
    11 #1
    12 #1
    13 #1
    14 #1
    15 #1

    that is utterly ridiculous. i had no idea they were dominating this much.
     
  17. gucci888

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    Yup. Numbers are tight with a lot of good prospects left on the board. Word is that one spot will be held until the end. Everyone is mum on who it's for though.
     
  18. LabMouse

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    Currently, Texas is at 9 from RecruitingNation Class Rankings, and OU is at 20. The UT coach normally should be able to keep the job as long as the team can beat OU at 40-50% rate.



     
  19. Brando2101

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    http://texas.247sports.com/Bolt/January-Official-Visitors-34465784


    Jan. 16 Visitors

    Holton Hill (Houston Lamar)
    Nick Brossette (Baton Rouge, La./University Lab)
    Daylon Mack (Gladewater)
    Louis Brown (Burton) -- Committed to Texas

    Jan. 23 Visitors

    Kai Locksley (Baltimore, Md./Gilman)
    Deandre Baker (Miami, Fla./Northwestern)
    Cameron Townsend (Ridge Point) -- Committed to Texas
    Mark Fields (Cornelius, N.C./Hough)
    Charles Omenihu (Rowlett) -- Committed to Texas
    DeShon Elliott (Rockwall-Heath) -- Committed to Texas
    Tristian Houston (North Shore) -- Committed to Texas

    Jan. 30 Visitors

    Sheldrick Redwine (Miami, Fla./Killian)
    Drew Richmond (Memphis, Tenn./University)

    Visits have not been set

    Matthew Merrick (Irving Cistercian) -- Committed to Texas
    Breckyn Hager (Westlake) -- Committed to Texas
    Xavier Lewis (Reserve, La./East St. John)
    Kris Boyd (Gilmer)
    Damarkus Lodge (Cedar Hill)
    Soso Jamabo (Plano West)
     
  20. percicles

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    I like how Coach Strong has us in with FL/SEC kids late in the game. Mack was lazy, prefered 'hanging fruit" and towards the final years was sloppy in his evaluations.
     

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