What's the going price for Dragic by the trade deadline?

I agree that, that could get it done. You could probably take out Terry and add Shved and it still would get done.

And I agree that at this point, the Suns will probably wait until the trade deadline to asses their situation.

 

suns dont want another pt guard....i think Pelicans pick + Knicks 2nd rd pick + either Capella or Shved(expiring) or Terry(expiring) will get it done

 

Cannan to wizards for future 2nds

Kpap, shevd, Jones, Nop, wizards 2nds for Dragic

 

There is no way PHX is going to think they can resign him if they have those other 3 pgs, heck they may not be able to if they have 2 other pg's in Bledsoe and Thomas.

One thing is for sure, if PHX still has that 3 headed monster at the trade deadline, they done goofed. They are going to lose Dragic for nothing.

 

So, first off, we would hold all bird rights aside from Smith.

At the 'projected mark' with cap holds, we would be hamstrung with either the full MLE or mini-MLE to sign Smith. He MUST be the first signee.

After Smith is signed (saying we want him signed), then we may dive however far we want for the re-signing of Dragic (expect more money) and Beverley (also expect more). Terry will be a veterans min player for w/e team he chooses, if he chooses to keep playing.

Les will go into his deep pockets from now until James Harden leaves us. We will be a repeat tax offender for a while.

 

Nick Johnson + picks will trade to Phoniex for Dragic.
They love Nick cause he went to school in Arizona.

 

Yes. We will be over the Cap without Smith's birds, so we can't offer anything more than what we are allowed.

As for Dragic and Bev (saying we have both), we can extend both to whatever we want with no penalties.

As for DMo, if he is still with us, he can be extended during or after the season, again, with no penalties.

 

That's the million dollar question that nobody can really answer. We know Les is willing to pay the tax for a championship contender. We don't know how long he'll pay the tax if we win a championship. And we don't know how long he'd pay the tax if we don't win a championship.

 

I'm pretty sure you don't have to sign Smith(or whoever else) with the MLE before everyone else. The way I understand it, the MLE simply counts as a slot in your salary until you renounce it. Either because you've gone over the cap apron or you went under the cap by more than the MLE amount.

I agree with the rest. Bird rights allow us to re-sign everyone, most specifically Dragic and Beverley, at however much it will take to retain. Although the Tax Apron will come into play if we use the full MLE or receive a player via S&T.

I'm of the opinion that if we do trade for Dragic, we'll go ahead and retain everyone we can, including Papa/Terry(the one. Then sign Josh Smith for mini-MLE to keep the apron from taking effect. Then 2016 will come and the tax will be so high we won't even touch it even with Dragic at max money.

 

Win or Lose, we are in win-now mode from here on. So money and tax is going to happen. The only reason we would not be in the tax is if Morey believes we are not good enough.

Morey believes after the next trade he makes that we are championship quality.

From here till we no longer have H&H, we will be tax payers.

 

Let me clarify for you.

Depending on how deep we are in the tax bracket will depend on how much we could potentially offer. As of next year, we are in this CBA, and depending on who we move, we could be close to the Apron and thus could not use the MLE, if we signed others before smith.

Thus, Smith must re-sign first, then we may extend the rest with no penalties.

 

Impossible to estimate. We will be in a new CBA at that time.

More than likely, Smith will not get another big contract in his days.

 

I doubt Smith will be taking 2M next year. If he didn't play well, the Rockets probably wouldn't keep him. On the other hand, if he proves that he can still play at a high level defensively as a starting PF and reasonably productive offensively (=not take dumb shots), I can see him signing a deal similar to that given to Boris Diaw at 7M+/yr for 3 or 4 years.

 

Your numbers are probably pretty close, but I think the hard cap will be the restrictive number next year. It will only be a one year tax due to the huge jump in 2016, which Les will be willing to pay for a title contender. You could also make the argument that next year is the right time to pay the tax from a free agent recruiting perspective. "See our owner is willing to pay luxury tax for a title".

From you list I think that Dragic may get slightly less (13-14M) while Josh Smith will likely get more.