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Josh Smith has agreed to sign with the Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Bobbythegreat, Dec 24, 2014.

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Do you like the move for the Rockets to sign Josh Smith at the bi-annual exception ($2.1M)?

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  2. NO

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  1. Horry33

    Horry33 Contributing Member

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    With reports that Josh Smith has agreed to sign with the Houston Rockets upon clearing waivers, there have been questions as to whether he's the right fit for Houston's style of play. Smith has underwhelmed in a year-and-a-half in Detroit, and while he certainly isn't worth the approximately $36 million the Pistons will be stuck paying through 2020, he's still a serviceable NBA player who can help the Rockets. Here's a quick primer on where he is as a player:


    Smith's offense
    Smith's efficiency struggles have been well-documented, as he's posted one of the worst true shooting percentages in the league. As ESPN Insider Tom Haberstroh mentioned on the NBA Lockdown Podcast, Smith's athleticism has taken a drastic nosedive. He went from dunking 123 times two seasons ago to 10 this year. He's no longer the above-the-rim talent many remember from Atlanta. Instead, he relies on his length and footwork to finish over and around defenders. He's shooting 55.4 percent in the restricted area, down from almost 74 percent two seasons ago.


    Without the lift to create space or explosion to get closer to the rim, Smith will often resort to tougher "touch" shots away from the rim, ones that he lacks the ability to finish. At the same time, his perimeter game is sorely lacking. He's struggled mightily from the perimeter, taking an inordinate amount of long two- and three-point shots that are not his strength. All this has conspired to make Smith a poor contributor in pick-and-roll from a finishing standpoint

    Smith does bring one strong offensive trait to the table, however: passing. He's made himself a threat by creating off the dribble and making plays for others, either out of shallow pick-and-roll (particularly when the defense predictably sags off him) or off post-ups, where he can still overwhelm smaller defenders. He's not a quick playmaker -- the ball does stick in his hands -- but he more often than not will make the right play, provided he hasn't overextended himself into a tough situation. He also displays good awareness of where the double-team is coming from and makes the appropriate pass out.

    Smith's defense
    Despite his problems on the offensive end, Smith still is a more than adequate defender. He combines his length and decent lateral quickness with excellent anticipation and timing, and can guard a wide array of positions. He is excellent at disrupting in the passing lanes, and in pick-and-rolls has the mobility and feel to either hedge hard and recover or switch onto the ball handler. Indeed, in Atlanta, he played in a defensive scheme that featured a high number of switches, and he played it well.

    As mentioned, he's not the leaper he used to be, but has managed to maintain an above average block percentage, acting as a de facto rim protector who can close ground fairly quickly and contest at the rim. He's a good defensive rebounder as a wing, but probably not good enough in that area as a big -- unless he plays alongside a dominant inside presence.

    Fit with the Rockets
    The $2.1 million question is why Smith experienced the sort of plummet he did from 2012 to now. Is it a case of a player hitting the declining part of his career, or were there environmental causes for his descent? It's safe to say it was a little bit of both: He's no longer the athlete he was in Atlanta, but he was not put in a position to be successful in Detroit. Smith needs to be in a situation where the floor is spaced with shooters, with a strong team identity where he is not looked upon to lead.

    In Houston, he fits a strong need on the defensive end, giving the Rockets another long defender who can guard on the interior and exterior, giving them a ton of versatility. His presence also allows James Harden's alleged defensive renaissance to either become a hard reality or dissipate over time. Either way, the Rockets won't need Harden to exert as much effort on the defensive end (although they would certainly welcome it).

    The offensive end is where there are a ton of question marks. Like the Mavs with Rajon Rondo, the Rockets will have to make significant adjustments to their playbook and rotations to take full advantage of Smith's skill set. His lack of shooting makes it tough to leave him on the floor as a spacer alongside Dwight Howard, although Donatas Motiejunas has performed well as the opposite big and he's not a shooter either. Putting the ball in Smith's hands could yield some Blake Griffin-DeAndre Jordan type connections between Smith and Howard, but it also means the ball isn't in Harden's hands, and with the Rockets at 20-7, it's tough to argue against the results of Harden's primary role.

    Head coach Kevin McHale will have his work cut out in trying to make this marriage work on the fly, without the team experiencing any slippage during the adjustment period, and without alienating his current players.
     
  2. Fyreball

    Fyreball Contributing Member

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    Wow, that guy has to be the biggest douche at ESPN, and that's saying something. He STILL had to include pot-shots about Harden's defense in there, and you could sense the desire for the Rockets to fail throughout that entire article. Freaking ****bag.
     
  3. seeingred

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    this reminds me of iguodala (another guy i really like) going to Golden State. Iggy was derided for not having a great shooting range and couldn't carry a team. He excelled at distributing the ball, finishing at the rim, and perimeter defense. when he finally got to play with a talented team that already had an identity, he fit right in.

    i expect that to happen here.
     
  4. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Josh Smith: &quot;It's an exciting time for me.Being able to be reunited with a good friend&amp; 1 of the best teammates(Dwight Howard) I ever (more)</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/547878239222247424">December 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>More Josh Smith: &quot;..played with, I think we can definitely do something special. Playing with the best two-guard in the game right now(more)</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/547878267194077186">December 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>More Josh Smith: &quot;...in James Harden, what more can you ask for.&quot;</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/547878290011074560">December 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Josh Smith: &quot;&quot;It means a lot. It's always been a big interest on their behalf. Now we came together &amp; being able to be wanted by a (more)</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/547880001454886912">December 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Josh Smith: &quot;...by a team with so much dynamics as far as having a chance to win the title is very special and very humbling.&quot;</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/547880023697260547">December 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  6. Fyreball

    Fyreball Contributing Member

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    Warmly welcome, Josh!
     
  7. RasaqBoi

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    See Morey makes friends with all free agents and when time comes, they respect the interest he's had.
     
  8. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Josh Smith on joining Rockets: &quot;I think I can add to their toughness. I think I can add to their versatility at the 4 position, being (more)</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/547881313563205632">December 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>More Josh Smith:&quot;able 2pass the basketball &amp; score down low.Just add another basketball IQ which will help when we make it 2the postseason&quot;</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/547881333943324673">December 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  9. gah

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    Yes, he's said it himself. This is due diligence paying off.
     
  10. xtruroyaltyx

    xtruroyaltyx Member

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    Josh is going to love Houston.

    Houston is going to become a destination city for guys. Not as high profile as some other cities, good living prices, decent night life...lots of room. And you can always vacation in those "it" destinations.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    The guy with the lowest basketball IQ in the entire league talks about adding basketball IQ to the team?

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  12. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    I saw that too, but shhhhhhhh...don't ruin the honeymoon. (Also, lowest in the league is definitely an exaggeration)
     
  13. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    As a passer and defender Josh is very basketball smart. You don't all of a sudden forget how to play winning ball.
     
  14. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
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    Yes and no. The Pistons can offset a portion (around $600k or so) of Smith's Houston salary against what they owe him this season and can partially offset future salary he receives.

    More importantly to Smith, under the current CBA, by being waived, Smith's salary payments are stretched out over the next 5 years. Instead of getting paid $13.5 million next year and the year after, he's "only" getting paid $5.4 million each year for the following five years. Depending on how Smith has managed his finances, that drastic change in cash flow might possibly lead him to get as much money in free agency as possible.

    We'll just have to wait and see what Smith and the Rockets do next summer.

    The deal was for one year only. If there was ever going to be a second year, it certainly would have been a player option. No way Smith agrees to be locked in for another year at that low a saalary. It was BETTER for the Rockets that a player option was avoided.

    Yep.

    Your instincts are correct. What you describe is forbidden.

    1) No. As a free agent signing, he cannot be traded for 3 months, which period won't end until after the trade deadline. Even if he could be traded, the Rockets are not inheriting his Detroit contract. He would be under his $2M contract with Houston.

    2) Smith can sign whatever contract any team can pay him under the salary cap. Detroit is entitled to partially offset that salary against what it owes him going forward.
     
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  15. banzai

    banzai Contributing Member

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    Harden + Howard + Smith + Brewer (Big Enough Three) for now. Bring on the Dragon!
     
  16. zcarenow

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    Any news on who they're trading or cutting to accomodate Smith?
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    How did he do in Detroit with that winning thing?

    DD
     
  18. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Atlanta Celtics Make Their Long-Awaited Return In Houston (<a href="https://twitter.com/JonathanTjarks">@JonathanTjarks</a> on J-Smoove reuniting with Dwight) -- <a href="http://t.co/JGj0R1Eds6">http://t.co/JGj0R1Eds6</a></p>&mdash; RealGM (@RealGM) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/547883493905408000">December 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  19. seclusion

    seclusion rip chadwick

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    It's a team game DD, and he's not a go to player -- whether he was paid that way or not.
     
  20. Pistol Pete

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    Jesus, dude. There isn't an orphanage with stockings hanging that you can pilfer gifts from?
     

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