Two NY policeman assassinated by African American as revenge for Eric Garner

de blasio would look like a hero if that happened.

nypd's reputation is not the best at the moment...

 

Hey ignorant mofo, those were Koreans who tried to protect their business from the rioters during the LA riot in 1992.

Your life must be being haunted by the LOFs so badly that you have to relate every Asian face to this name. You are so pathetic that is beyond words.

 

an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind

 

All very interesting chap, and i dp think youre rather smart enough to know that many of your arguments are disingenuous, bit really who cares? perhaps you can look over on this side of the pond for a more adequate comparison?

Why don't you run stats on parts of the US that have a lot of guns vs those that don't. Which have higher rates of gin violence and violence overall?

 

Nope, you're wrong. It's called schism, plus add in the media sensationalism and you have the perfect storm.

 

I don't think "they" want a lynching ... you don't need protests to accomplish that. Protests demand social or political change.

There are multiple versions of the truth in NY and MO, and the method our society uses to reconcile those versions in this type of situation either isn't being employed, is showing favoritism, or worked fine - depending on who you ask.

That doesn't sound like an appropriate amount of ambiguity in these types of cases. Justice comes with resolution, not ambiguity.

 

Not surprised our resident race baiter hasn't responded to this new information.

Protester Confronts Fox Station That Deceptively Edited 'Kill A Cop' Chant

A Baltimore Fox affiliate apologized Monday night for a report it ran over the weekend that deceptively edited protestors to look like they were chanting "kill a cop."

Gawker originally caught WBFF chopping up footage of a protest chant to sound like incitement to murder police on Monday.

The chant went "we won't stop, we can't stop, 'til killer cops, are in cell blocks," according to C-SPAN footage.

But WBFF cut the audio short and told viewers that the words were in fact "we won't stop, we can't stop, so kill a cop."

The station apologized both on its Facebook page and in an interview with one of the protestors leading the chant, Tawanda Jones.

"Although last night’s report reflected an honest misunderstanding of what the protesters were saying, we apologize for the error," the post read.

"We have deleted the story on our webpage and we offered to have Ms. Jones on Fox45 News at 5:00 tonight for a live interview," it continued.

In that interview, Jones called out the station several times for misrepresenting her words.

"The interesting part that really gets to me is, where you guys edited it and stopped — like, how could that be a mistake?" she said.

"Once you play that whole thing, you would know that's not something that's being said," she added.

The interviewer apologized several times, and though Jones told the station she was grateful to come on, she also said she now fears for her reputation and her safety. Near the end of the interview she began to cry.

"At the end of the day, people's lives are on the line," she said. "Now, even though we're doing this, I still don't feel safe because I still feel like the message is out there."

"What if a crazed-out cop or a crazed-out supporter thinks I'm trying to get cops killed?" she later said, wiping tears from her face.

 

They should get sued. This is the most dangerous kind of slander there is. What they did wasn't a mistake, it was a crime.

 

Most of the gin violence ceased once alcohol prohibition was repealed.

:grin:

 

Mayor de Blasio puts a dumbass reporter in his place.

Bill de Blasio shows how Liberals should take control of Right Wing planted reporters

A reporter asked one of the most divisive questions at a news conference in New York City featuring Bill de Blasio, his commissioner, and police chief. The reporter's question was barely audible. He asked the mayor if he approved of anti-police chants, with some equating the police to the KKK. Bill de Blasio did not run away from the question. He answered it straight on.

“We've talked about this so many times,” said Mayor Bill de Blasio. “I am not going to talk about it again. Now the question is, what are you guys going to do? Are you going to keep dividing us? … Let’s get real.

Just in that question, 25,000 people marched down one of our streets a few days back, absolutely peaceful, no chants like that, peacefully calling for what they believed in as American citizens. And the NYPD protected them and I told people, at the time I said repeatedly, that I got calls from all over this country with admiration for NYPD for the way they protected people's democratic rights. I heard from so many protesters who appreciated the NYPD. I heard from NYPD officers & leaders who said they saw peaceful protest, respectful protest.

What you managed to do is pull up the few who do not represent the majority, who are saying unacceptable things, who shouldn't be saying those things. And some who actually physically attack police officers which I said is absolutely unacceptable.

We will prosecute them to the fullest. Everyone must participate in finding those individuals. Providing information to the police. Intervening to stop them. Alerting the police. I will keep saying this over and over the question is will you tell the world about it. Because you all are part of this too.

So yes there are some bad people who say inappropriate things. There are some people who say hateful things. They have no place in these protests. They are not what I am talking about. I am talking about the vast majority of New Yorkers and vast majority of Americans who believe in peaceful democratic process. I don’t care where they are in the political spectrum. The vast majority of our citizens are good and decent people who do not say negative things, racist things nasty things to police, threatening things to police.

The few who want conflicts attempt that and unfortunately so many times you guys enable that. I don't see reports on the many decent good people. I don't see reports on the everyday cops who do the exemplary thing and hold the line and show restraint and discipline no matter what invective hurled at them."

The reporter then attempted to interrupt Mayor as if everything the mayor said went unsaid. The Mayor slammed back.

“You know what, I am telling you all over again that’s how you want to portray the world but we know a different reality," said Bill de Blasio. "There are some people who do that. It's wrong it's wrong they shouldn't do that. It's immoral It's wrong it’s nasty. It’s negative. They should not do that. But they my friend are not the majority. Stop portraying them as the majority."

More good politicians must challenge the media when they are attempting to steer the narrative instead of reporting the events. Too many times they have become but the tool of one side of the discourse at the detriment of us all.

 

Where and between who is there a schism? If you're talking about those who want violent means and those who want peace, that's always been there. The guy had a record, as has been said. The recent violence has just boiled them over.

The media is just doing its job. Are you saying they shouldn't be covering protests? They've never endorsed violence, they've simply exposed how corrupt our penal system is. Excessive cop violence has been going on for decades, it's only now that we're really starting to open our eyes. Shame on the media for letting that happen though. This is not what the first amendment is for.

 

Bathtub gin is very dangerous and combustible.

 

Should Jesse Jackson, Al Sharptons, and Spike Lee also get sued then?

 

Sued for what...??? You people are silly. Lol...

 

Just like FOX to make i look like the peaceful protesters are being just that peaceful FAUX news network fair and balanced my *ss.

 

Everybody who disagrees is disingenuous. That is a response I see from glynch a bunch. "I don't like what you say, therefore you must really "know" that I am right but you are trying to nefariously trick everybody for some sinister reason I won't ever quit articulate."

I have enough respect to at least acknowledge that you believe all the stupid bull**** that comes out of your typing fingers.

When I go through the list of "highest murder rate" cities, there doesn't seem to be any relation to gun control laws. Some places on the list have loose gun laws like Birmingham Alabama, while others are in the states with the most restrictive gun laws, like Newark, NJ, Oakland, CA.

The cities on the list all seem to be places that I would describe as the most depressed economically. Detroit, Newark, New Orleans, Oakland, St Louis, etc.

Same with states. Some states with the most lax gun laws, like New Hampshire and Idaho have among the lowest murder rates, while some with loose laws like Nevada have high murder rates, and states with the tightest, laws , like Pensylvania, Illinois, and Maryland are near the top of murders, while others like Rhode Island are near the bottom.

The Brady campaign rates Pensylvania as having the strictest laws, and they have a higher rate than Texas, who certainly won't be getting any gold stars from the Brady Campaign.

Without getting someone to do a rigorous statically analysis, it seems that social and economic problems are the important factor. I don't see any obvious direct corelation between gun laws and murder rate.

Call that disingenuous if you like.

I'm actually interested that you call me "chap". If I searched all your posts I'd be interested to see how often you've used that word before. Off my memory, I don't recall you using it. It certainly isn't a word you regularly use. I'm sure it indicates something, but I'll refrain from speculating exactly what.

 

It's not about gun laws - the biggest problem with gun law efficacy is that it can more or less be undercut when neighboring jurisdictions have lax gun laws. That is the Chicago example - Chicago had no gun stores, but cross the border into Dupage county and you'll find tons. Meanwhile contrast with New York - cross the border into Westchester or Suffolk county, and it's not the same.

It's fairly obvious however that regions that have less guns (regardless of what legal regimes are in place) tend to have less gun violence and less crime in general. This is just basic logic that is backed up by most of the available data (yes, I understand that since discredited 17-year old data by right wing researchers argued the opposite once upon a time and spawned a popular "more guns less crime" meme - which hasn't aged well). You're much likely to get killed with a gun or killed overall in a state like Louisiana than you are in New Jersey or Hawaii - and you're also much likely to run into gun owners there. Coincidence?

More guns = more people getting shot with bullets. An effective legal or regulatory regime that makes guns more costly and hence reduces supply/demand would reduce this.

 

I have been interested in looking at this question and already had a dataset created to begin doing so, but hadn't run any analysis on the data until just now.

The dataset includes the FBI crime rates for all 50 states plus DC, plus the overall US from 1960 to 2012. In addition, I compiled a dummy variable for each state's CHL law status for each of those years. Regular regressions show a statistically significant negative correlation between states with CHL laws on the books and rates of murder as well as overall crime rates.

So, while this doesn't speak directly to your statement, "parts of the US that have a lot of guns," it does provide evidence that allowing people to legally carry concealed handguns is correlated with lower crime rates.

This surface analysis does have some caveats, I haven't used time series methods to strip the data of their time-dependent variance, nor have I added any potentially confounding covariates. I also have not used the required methods to established anything approaching causality.

However, the data indicate that your opinion may be mistaken.

 

This will prolly come out garbled (Stata isn't that good at putting out well formatted output), but here are the results of the regressions I ran, for any data geeks out there...

reg v15 chldummy

Source | SS df MS Number of obs = 2751
-------------+------------------------------ F( 1, 2749) = 99.10
Model | 3592.40358 1 3592.40358 Prob > F = 0.0000
Residual | 99648.3424 2749 36.2489423 R-squared = 0.0348
-------------+------------------------------ Adj R-squared = 0.0344
Total | 103240.746 2750 37.5420894 Root MSE = 6.0207

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v15 | Coef. Std. Err. t P>|t| [95% Conf. Interval]
-------------+----------------------------------------------------------------
chldummy | -2.437737 .2448736 -9.96 0.000 -2.917891 -1.957582
_cons | 7.486677 .1398276 53.54 0.000 7.2125 7.760855
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. reg violentcrimerate chldummy

Source | SS df MS Number of obs = 2751
-------------+------------------------------ F( 1, 2749) = 4.91
Model | 437890.016 1 437890.016 Prob > F = 0.0269
Residual | 245395502 2749 89267.1887 R-squared = 0.0018
-------------+------------------------------ Adj R-squared = 0.0014
Total | 245833392 2750 89393.9607 Root MSE = 298.78

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violentcri~e | Coef. Std. Err. t P>|t| [95% Conf. Interval]
-------------+----------------------------------------------------------------
chldummy | -26.91391 12.15179 -2.21 0.027 -50.74146 -3.086351
_cons | 409.1459 6.938907 58.96 0.000 395.5399 422.7519
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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If I may interject: not all guns are created equal. I don't know how your stats on ownership break down by gun type: 4-shot bolt action rifle/legal sporting shotgun/.22, versus the dirt cheap handguns, the higher capacity handguns and semi-autos and such. Also, rural vs. urban gun ownership, by type and quantity and corresponding gun crime rate....

I'm just curious and I doubt these stats exist.