Pistons waive Josh Smith

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Not picking up off waivers. If we do that we have to pick up his contract. He must clear waivers, then we can make him an offer with other teams interested. This is why Boozer is a Laker and not a Rocket because they claimed him off waivers when the Bulls waived him and we were not willing to pick up his contract.

 

I honestly want us to pick this guy up. With Howard/Ariza/Smith you will get absolutely no layups or dunks on us EVER. Our defensive will be tops. What we'll suffer offensively will be made up with the block party we'll have every nite. Plus I'd bet you $$$ he can hold LMA better than anybody we currently have

 

even funnier since Boozer was amnestied the Lakers cant even trade him lol

 

I agree. I think anyone who thinks Josh Smith isn't worth the vet min or comparable is crazy. It's certainly a question mark how well he would fit in our rotation (I'm optimistic), but signing him would clearly be low-risk, high-reward.

 

Detroit still have to pay that i do believe

 

Let me get this straight because I don't know this kind of things very well.

1. If a team claims him off the waiver, it will pick up his contract, right? If any team actually wants him for his contract, why couldn't the Pistons trade him? Some teams would probably want to dump a bad contract back to Detroit.

2. Is it correct that after the waiver period expires and no team takes him, he is free to sign with any team and Detroit will still have to pay him?

 

All correct.

1. If a team claims him, they pick up his contract. Pistons couldn't trade him. Well I guess they had an offer from Sacramento, but like you said, Detroit didn't want any of their bad contracts.

2. Correct.

 

I believe that if a team picks him up while on the waivers list that team who picks him takes his contract. Once the 48hours is over he can sign with whoever and the team that signs him pays that new contract and the team who waived that player pays the contract. I'm not completely sure but I think that's the gist.

 

And we will make no jump shots ever.

 

so? he can finish and play defense alot better than black or dorsey

 

low risk high reward...morey should do it

 

Make sure Detroit or whoever still pays majority of his money... and we will be alright.

 

Surely he would be better than Dorsey/Black.

 

If he signs with us after the 48hr waiver period I believe we don't have to pay anything related to his contract with Detroit. It's still all up to Detroit to pay him for that contract.

 

Almost.

If he's not claimed off waivers and ultimately signs with another team then it works like this:

If another team signs a player who has cleared waivers, the player's original team is allowed to reduce the amount of money it still owes the player (and lower their team salary) by a commensurate amount. This is called the right of set-off. This is true if the player signs with any professional team -- it does not have to be an NBA team. The amount the original team gets to set off is limited to one-half the difference between the player's new salary and the minimum salary for a one-year veteran (if the player is a rookie, then the rookie minimum is used instead).

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q66

So, let's assume that the Rockets sign him for the Bi-Annual Exception ($2.077M).

Detroit would owe his current salary ($14M) -
half of ($2.077 - League min for 1 year vet ($762,795).

Detroit would owe him :
$14,000,000 - (($2,077,000 - $762,795) /2 ) = $13,342,897

Add that to the $2,077,000 that Houston is paying and his total salary for the year ends up at $15,419,897.

So, Smith ends up making an additional $1.4M by being waived and signed by Houston.

EDIT: I incorrectly used the minimum for a 10 year vet but should have used 1 year vet min. Recalculated using the correct numbers.

 

Agreed and still better than Black and Howard's twin Joey.

 

For possibly around 2 million year:



Josh Smith>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Joey Dorsey's whole career

 

PleasE, you act as if dmo and jones are even decent shooters. Dmo needs a clean look and jones needs a clean look plus 5 seconds to get his wind up release off. Josh smith can actually make those clean loook open threes at a higher rate than both.

 

Yeah. If he clears waivers I can't even be mad if the Rockets sign him. As big depth goes, he is better than either Dorsey or Black by a mile. If he bought into our system, he could actually help us.

I think part of the problem with a guy like say Josh Smith or Lance Stephenson comes when they go to a team where they believe they are "the man". Josh would have no such illusions here.