It looks like the US is finally restoring diplomatic relations with Cuba...

The revolution is different from the government that followed. He said the former was heroic, not the latter. The US even supported the revolution itself.

 

Neither where. Go look at what Castro did during that revolution.

 

I haven't found any evidence of genocide.

 

C'mon, you've said genocide twice, without support. I went and looked it up. I found a couple thousand summary executions, an attack on a refugee boat, some forced labor camps, and some miscellaneous other stuff. It's not good stuff, but I'm not finding any genocide. I put in the effort. So, please be specific.

 

100k-200k executed (about 10k from the revolution). You missed that?

I'm not sure what your 'cmon' is for. Belgium and Spain have both sued Castro for genocide (if thats the evidence you are looking for).

 

What exactly are your sources?

 

The countries of Spain and Belgium did not sue Castro for genocide. Cuban exile groups sued Castro for genocide in Spain and Belgium. That's your proof?

 

And did you bother to look into the resolution of those cases?

Now what are your sources for the 100,000+ killed by the Castros?

 

no. my proof was the body count, why do you think i wrote '(if thats the evidence you are looking for)'. Personally I don't care if some other groups/courts think he did or didn't commit genocide.

R.J. Rummel

I feel like I've already won. We now have multiple people defending the acts of Castro (one even called his actions 'heroic').

 

Again, what's your source for the claim that the Castros executed more than 100,000 Cubans?

 

Alrdy answered u above. R.J. Rummel

 

The old guys are about to die, you make nice now the next generation of leadership will be cooperative. Again, they won't be getting any Russian or Venezuelan money.

And they have a huge medical services base that could provide affordable services to boomers. It will be Jamaica in a decade.
Maybe Florida South.

 

Rummel says 70000. What's your real source?

 

no he doesn't.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.TAB1.GIF

Thats from 87 and doesn't include boat executions.

Again, if you are trying to defend the acts of Castro. You have alrdy lost. Go ahead and go with 70k if you feel like, you aren't helping you're case. you're hurting it.

 

what's your point

 

Rick Perry is jealous - he has only genocided a few hundred people.

 

Just a reminder for those who think Cuba was about to crack under pressure - any hardship they would be facing would be nothing compared to when Cuba had 1 trading partner, the Soviet Union, who collapsed and cut them off. They weathered that, and whatever would have been coming is nothing by comparison.

And actually US sanctions was the trump card for deflecting blame. The economy tanks? It is all the fault of the Yankee capitalist pigs. Regardless of whether it was true or not, it worked. We've just taken away the regime's "Get Out of Jail, Free" card.

Also, arguing about the relative merits of Fidel Castro here is bizarre. He is basically a walking corpse. He is not much more relevant to the future of Cuba than Saddam is to the future of Iraq. If he makes it to the end of the next US President's first term, it will be a ringing endorsement of Cuban socialized medicine.

Let me add, if you really feel the need to talk about Castro's atrocities, it would probably put it in context to compare the people killed by the Contras, or any number of American supported Central American dictators dating all the way back to the heyday of the banana producers over equivalent periods of time.. If you think the US is any position to lecture Latin Americans about the sanctity of human life, you are willfully blind. Latin America has been a nonstop horror show for the most part for 200 years. But as I already said, it isn't relevant to the future of Cuba.

 

Castro was an incredible athlete in his day. I wonder how many kids he has?

 

What exactly did you win? A trip to Bermuda? What exactly is the point you are trying to make? That Castro was/is a bad guy? No argument from me. Are you attempting to say that recognizing Cuba is a mistake? So Nixon recognizing Communist China was a mistake, right? After all, the PRC was responsible for millions of deaths. Are you going to criticize every dictatorship recognized by a Republican administration over the last several decades, or are you simply interested in attempting to say something negative about President Obama, regardless of the subject matter?

With all due respect, do you ever consider how silly you look here at times?