Get Gogi... (use Pelicans pick in 3 way to score Phx a big... throw in Capella... and Terry to make salaries work....) cobble together a trade for a first rd pick (2nds, Lull, TJones, Daniels or NJohnson) to get Monroe in the trade exception... and let's go get a ring... then we lock it in for the next 2 or 3 years... blow the cap by retaining our players (even if we overpay)... max to Gogi, max to Monroe, payday forPBev, KPap continues to get paid... sprinkle in min contracts as needed... Gogi/PBev/Cannan Harden/Daniels or Johnson Ariza/KPap Monroe/DMo/Black D12/DMo/Dorsey a guy can dream, right?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lwl3h62 I love the idea of having Heyward on the team, but I don't know if I'm willing to trade Canaan. I know McHale.
That team chemistry is awful. 4 ball heavy players. Smith is a chemistry killer. Watched it personally in Atlanta. We DO NOT want J-Smooth.
They couldn't go over the cap to resign Monroe , they would have to use cap space to sign him because he does not come with bird rights. Under your scenario above m they would have little to no cap space to offer him a contract and if they just got Monroe and not Dragic , I doubt that he would accept a deal for the cap space they would have (about 7m?). Monroe is nothing but a half season rental because of the lack of bird rights. I'd give you a second round pick for him under those circumstances ... Also , considering how well he's played and fit in , I cant see Terry being shipped out ... Just don't think its realistic to add him to deals.
Houston In: Dragic, Plumlee Phoenix In: Jordan Hill, NOP pick, Daniels, Garcia, Marvin Williams, Hornets pick Lakers In: Kidd-Gihlchrist, lance Stephenson, Gerald Green Hornets In: TJones, Wayne Ellington, Isaiah Canaan Houston gets backup Center and Dragic Phoenix gets a big man and depth in positions that aren't Point Guard Lakers get prospects who can grow once Kobe retires Hornets get rid of a virus named Lance Stephenson, get more depth in the PF(maybe have TJones play SF), backup SG, and depth at the PG. Dragic Harden Ariza DMo Howard Bench of Beverly, Plumlee, Black, Terry, Papa, Johnson, Capela
No way Phoenix gives up Plumlee and Dragic for Hill. Hell, if you offered all of that for just Plumlee, they may not budge.
I mean, would Atlanta say no to a Godfather offer for Korver? Something like Canaan, The NOLA pick, and Capela for him. He's not a crucial piece for a rebuilding team. He is best served on a championship level team. And he would fit in nicely with us. That might be a lot to give up for Korver but I'm ready to win in the short term and he has a pretty tasty 17.3 PER for someone making 6.25 mil a year.
Atlanta are 17-7 and 3rd in the East. They might just think they are a 'piece away' from BEING a championship team. I very much doubt they would look at themselves as a 'rebuilding team'....
Let's be serious here. They aren't going to make the playoffs. The west is just too stacked. They have the lakers pick. Their pick. Take the Hornets pick and the NOP pick. That's 4 lottery picks. Those could easily be flipped for a star-ish player on a rebuilding team I.e. Anyone on the Timberwolves, 76ers, etc. and build around role players and Bledsoe. Or keep them and possible get a few top 5 picks. If this trade went down, Phoenix could be young and deadly in a few years, rather than constantly always making the 9th seed.
According to Real GM they have their pick & are owed the following: As things sit right now the Minny pick wouldn't transfer & its entirely possible the LA wins one of the top 3 picks & wouldn't transfer either. In all likelihood they end up with the LA pick , their own first at the tail end of the lottery and have a second rounder of their own. I have to question whether they want "another pick" to add to those incoming players next season. Giving them the NO pick which most likely transfers (assuming they don't win the damn lottery) means they would have four rookies to find spots for next year. That's just a bit much if ya ask me , unless they stash one or two across the pond. It wasn't all that long ago that Morey had three first round picks and couldn't find a way to move up - He ended up taking Jeremy Lamb , #BeWell & Terremce Jones. Phx will likely be in the same position , unable to move up and will be forced to find roster spots for incoming rookies. I think if you deal with PHX this season , with them being on the fringe of the playoffs & their draft picks as stated , they are going to want immediate help rather than more picks. So if we are dealing with PHX for Dragic , we likely have to find a third team willing to send them a quality wing in exchange for the NO pick while Dragic slides into the TPE. Just my opinion but I cant see them hording more draft picks in what appears to be a mediocre draft.
When Howard is completely broken down by the end of next season and we are wondering what happened and have NOTHING but broken dreams . Then we can all talk about this era and what should have been. All the while never thinking about the part time hero we really had in Howard. Harden will keep us compeditive --> first round fodder and there we will be for the next 5 years. We need to trade Howard and his 22M+ contract ASAP. While he still has VALUE. If Haward is what we are building around than we have a cracked foundation.
I wish a lot more people would look at the entire scenario before posting some of these ridicules trade ideas... T_Man
That doesn't change the fact that they are on the fringe of the playoffs NOW and by moving Dragic would shred their chances of making the playoffs unless they got ~equal talent in return at a position of need (SG/SF?). What it boils down to is do they want to build for ... another next year or do they try and make a run this year ?? I think they would prefer to at least get in this year and use the assets they currently have along with FA (That LA pick will be pretty good) to improve in the offseason. What third team could you get involved that would be willing to send a quality SG/SF to Phx who would then send Dragic to Houston ??
What if you take the lakers out of the mix, take out Plumlee, and do this Houston In: Dragic, fillers Hornets In: Fillers, Picks, Jones, (Gerald Green maybe?) Suns In: Stephenson, Marvin Williams, Kidd-Gihlchrist There's their 2 guard. And Stephenson wouldn't be the most important player on that team so he'd probably take his Indiana role. Bledsoe or Thomas would lead the offense along with Stephenson. Hornets are looking bad but they'd trade Stephenson for a pack of gum right now. Rockets get Dragic and more bench depth.
Yeah really .... Horford & Millsap are pretty much untouchable .... the East is wide open this year. Atlanta as currently constructed likely does no worse than the second round of the playoffs , with the right tweak to the roster they could be in the EC Finals.
teams with quality SG/SF who would possibly trade one of them: Clippers: Matt Barnes Denver: Randy Foye, Wilson Chandler Utah: Alec Burks Minnesota: Kevin Martin NOP: Eric Gordon(if healthy) Orlando: Mo Harkless? Charlotte: Lance Stephenson, Marvin Williams, MKG Wizards: Glen Rice Jr. , Otto Porter? Maybe? 76ers: KJ(for a good offer), Tony Wroten Raptors: Landry Fields Milwaukee: OJ Mayo Grizzlies: Tayshaun Prince Chicago: Dunleavy Pistons: All of them Indiana: all of them not named Paul George To make my point, there's a lot of quality (role player, borderline star, young player with lots of potential) that can get tossed around. And most of the ones I named are better than most of the Suns 2s and 3s
