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Does Beverley's defense make him a top20 PG?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by omgTHEpotential, Dec 14, 2014.

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Is Pat a TOP20 PG?

  1. Yes

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    69.0%
  2. No

    45 vote(s)
    31.0%
  1. Garner

    Garner Member

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    He is a starting PG in this league.
     
  2. Panda23

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    i voted too early. i said yes then i saw the list... yeah i think he'd be top 25
     
  4. Salvy

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    Who cares? Why do we always have to be comparing players???? Pat Bev has been a perfect fit for us so what does it matter? He can be considered the worst PG in the NBA or the best and it still doesn't matter... He works for us.... End of story.....
     
  5. HighlightReel

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    Of all point guards, I don't mind them instead of PatBev
    Westbrook
    Paul
    Curry
    Lowry
    Parker
    Conley
    Lillard
    Dragic - maybe: because of his shot creating ability and ability to take over offensively, but Pat's D is better


    I would avoid these other candidates from OP's list:

    Rondo - extremely low scoring efficiency, not worth the next near-max contract
    Bledsoe - don't bring a needed skill and won't fit as well and not worth a near max contract

    they can create shots very well, but...
    Wall - low scoring efficiency
    Irving - suspect D
    Rose - not worth the max given the injury
    DWill - past his prime, suspect D

    Conclusion: PatBev's been great. It's really hard to upgrade at PG anyway.
     
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  7. Rox23

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    Without Harden = top 40 pg (maybe)

    With Harden = top 25 pg
     
  8. mfastx

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    He's around top 20 IMO, give or take a few spots.
     
  9. Rip Van Rocket

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    Bev is shooting almost 46% from beyond the arc. Maybe he needs to shoot more. In our offense harden is the PG and Bev is more of a shooting guard.

    I'm wondering what would happen to our offense if we traded for a ball dominant PG? Do we really want to take the ball out of Hardens hands? It would be nice to have a PG that could drive and create a little more, but we had that in Lin and we ended up bringing Lin off the bench.

    I really like having a PG that is an elite defensive player.
     
  10. CertifiedTroll

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    League: No

    For the Rockets: Yes
     
  11. Zboy

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    I will be very pissed off if the Rockets let Bev go to another team.

    My only issue with him are his health issues given the way he plays.
     
  12. newAge_Rockets

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    I can't compare Bev to those other guys, because he doesn't handle the ball nearly as much as them. I don't think Bev would be as good as those guys if he had to play as a pure point guard, but he is excellent at his role on this team. We just need him to continue his 3 and D play.
     
  13. JesusAllen

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    Pat is a great fit with harden and our style of play. but if were real Bev is a elite role player. my dream fit for harden is Lowry , conley , and dragic (suspect D though).
     
  14. Hippieloser

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    Top 20 point guard? Ehh. Maybe. Top 20 3&D guy? Oh yeah.
     
  15. omgTHEpotential

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    You know there is a saying 'In NBA you are what you defend' so that would make Pat a PG. ;)
     
  16. PeppermintCandy

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    Like others have said, Beverley's a good fit with the team right now. Not sure what his ranking would be, but as long as he keeps top 10 PGs from playing like top 10 PGs, it doesn't matter all that much.
     
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    I do not agree that the above are better than Beverley. They have different skills, but overall Beverley offers more or at least the same to a contender.
     
  18. mfastx

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    Individually, I'd say that

    Paul
    Westbrook
    Curry
    Parker
    Lillard
    Wall
    Irving
    Rose
    Lowry
    Conley
    Rondo
    Bledsoe
    Lawson
    Williams
    Walker
    Teague
    Thomas
    Holiday
    Rubio and
    Carter-Williams

    are better.

    So about 21 sounds right. 22 if you include Dragic who doesn't play PG this season.
     
  19. Gimmmethemike

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    Brandon Knight this year is better than Pat Beverly. Brandon knight is a stud.
     
  20. RudyT43

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    It's a good question but it is ultimately irrelevant. Pat Beverley is the perfect fit for us, I don't care how good he is overall
     

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