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[WOJ] Rockets Pursuing Deals with Trade Exception

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CJLarson, Dec 10, 2014.

  1. gdinamite

    gdinamite Member

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    Carmelo Anthony says a published report stating that he is considering waiving his no-trade clause to green light a trade for the New York Knicks is false.

    "Come on, man. After all the work I did to get here and get back here? If I was to get up and want to leave now that would just make me weak, make me have a weak mind," Anthony said on Friday morning. "I've never been a person to try to run from any adversity or anything like that so I'm not going to pick today to do that."[/QUOTE]

    Why would we want that trash bag?[/QUOTE]

    I think it's too much for him. If we can buy low, ok. If we have to pay high. Team chemistry will be broken...
     
  2. RMGEEGEE

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    Carmelo ?

    Why would we want another MAX player with supposed knee problems?
     
  3. basketballholic

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    Kobe-Melo-Rondo


    Just say'n.
     
  4. dobro1229

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    For the Rockets to get a TRUE max salary player this year, there has to be several things that happens first.

    A. The Rockets need to acquire as much expiring salary as possible with the Lin TPE BEFORE Dec 19th.

    B. The Rockets would then have to wait until close to the deadline (60 days) to combine that players salary with other parts to go out.

    C. The Rockets would have to sent out that player along with most likely Terry and Papanikolaou in order to take on more than their combined salaries allowed in some trades (Check out cbafaq.com for full details).

    D. Also keep in mind the max roster spot rules as well so if the Rockets are giving up 3 players +, likely that they will also have to take back at least that amount back or hope that the other team has 2 or 3 players they don't mind waiving first making this type of move even more challenging.

    .............

    Ex: Trading for a superstar like Carmelo Anthony:

    If before next week ends, lets say the Rockets trade a 2nd round pick for Brandon Bass (6.9 mil expiring) into the Lin TPE, they then have to wait 60 days in order to trade Bass along with another player IE Terry & Pap. most likely. The combined salaries of those 3 players would be $17.55 million. So that means the Rockets could then take back up to $22.55 million under CBA trade rules which is almost exactly what Carmelo Anthony makes ($22.45 mil).

    If you are wondering what these trade rules are, here you go: This is for Non-Taxpaying Teams:

    Outgoing salary: Maximum incoming salary
    $0 to $9.8 million : 150% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000
    $9.8 million to $19.6 million: The outgoing salary plus $5 million (probably where the Rox will be)
    $19.6 million and up: 125% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000



    Of course the other two factors to consider is what are the Rockets giving up as well (probably multiple picks at least), and are the Knicks able/willing to cut or move 2 other players as well to get the deal done? Is that kind of deal going to even be palatable for a team like the Knicks or any other team giving up their superstar?... Not sure.

    This is why its important for Morey to be able to get someone in that TPE salary slot before next week. The closer they can get to the full 8.4 mil they have to use the easier it will be to make a trade at the deadline for a true max player if that really is Morey's prerogative which seeing as though Melo is circling back around as a potential future option (don't rule out Bosh as well again) if things continue to spiral out of control with teams especially in the East.
     
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  5. basketballholic

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    Boy this Bosh thing this summer is just continuing to bite us in the hiney. We could have Lin and our first round pick instead of no pick and the $8.4 TPE right now and instead of scrambling to find a guy we can plug into the exception to combine salaries for a later trade, we'd already have the guy, he'd be giving us good playmaking minutes behind Harden, and we'd still have our pick to throw into a blockbuster deal later.


    Thanks, Mr. Bosh.
     
  6. LelWestbrick

    LelWestbrick Rookie

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    Lol, i'll take a TPE over Lin any day of the week. We can probably get a more useful player on an easier to trade contract with the TPE.

    Getting Lin off of this team was one of the best things of the offseason.
     
  7. PCT24

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    Good playmaking? lol
     
  8. Zbed

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    Nobody wants Lin lol
     
  9. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Lol. Best joke I've heard in weeks
     
  10. sjackson0

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    Playmaking and LIN do not belong together champ.....stop it
     
  11. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Lin was never in our plans this year... whether we were going to chase after Bosh or not. It was clear at the end of the season his time here was up. He knew it and i thought everyone here knew it.
     
  12. bulkatron

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    Lin was maddening and I can't stand his game - but you gotta admit that having him as a trade chip and using his production to ease Harden's load (instead of relying on Daniels, Terry, whoever) would be somewhat palatable given how thin the Rockets are right now. This isn't an endorsement for Lin, but simply that another warm backcourt body who is somewhere around the league average isn't that bad a thing.

    Still, I would be complaining about his TO's and lack of D if he was still here, so there's no winning (no pun) for any party when Lin's name comes up.
     
  13. K-Low_4_Prez

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    yeah we could use him but we could also really use Omer right about now but there was never going to be a scenario in which they were going to play here this year... My point is you cant blame Bosh for us not having Lin as he would have been traded regardless
     
  14. HTM

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    2 30 + max players just starting there deals who have tons of potential to be washed up/broken down within the next 3 years... + extremely over paid declining Kobe.... should scare no one.

    I honestly think that would be a horrible team. (horrible relative to the expectations)
     
  15. basketballholic

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    It wasn't the TPE or Lin. It was the TPE or Lin and OUR FIRST ROUND PICK!!! Some of you guys can't read. Morey would have never traded Lin and the FIRST ROUND PICK if he would've known Bosh was going to back out. Because today right now, we'd have an $8.4 million SALARY that could be traded for over $12 million of salary AND we would have our first round pick AND we would've been able to use Lin this last stretch of games when Canaan went down. And Lin would have been useful to have around when Harden got dinged and otherwise exhausted.

    So stop distorting. Morey wouldn't be scrambling around to get a player to fill the TPE and we'd still have our pick!!
     
  16. Zbed

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    Lin isn't useful at all......I'd rather play Jet
     
  17. ZNB

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    Yikes, someone actually regrets getting rid of Lin. All credibily lost (if he even still had any left).
     
  18. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Nobody but the Lakers and New York have the money to pay 15 million dollars for a very late 1st round pick. That 15 million dollars can buy a lot of good second round picks.

    If Lin had any worth right now, Lakers would have have traded his ass for it.
     
  19. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Getting rid of Lin was addition by subtraction.

    Having Lin would have hurt the development of Canaan. Lin is not good enough to play the minutes that even Terry is playing. Don't you think that would cause chemistry issues? Having a guy being paid $15MM to be 3rd string PG. That and the crazies that he brings who directly tweet everyone involved with the Rockets is just not worth it. The guy has too much baggage off the court for a mediocre back up. On the court he is a mental midget and does nothing that Canaan or Jet can't do.

    Rather get someone with the TPE and then flip that someone elsewhere
     
  20. K-Low_4_Prez

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    to make an omelet you have to break a few eggs... we can live in a world of "what ifs" but the reality is Lin was never going to suit up for us this year.

    trust me I would love to have that 1st round pick, and you know Morey wishes he had that first round pick but its really a moot point
     

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