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DeMarcus Cousins has viral menangitis, will miss 7-10 days, including vs. Houston on Thursday

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Commodore, Dec 7, 2014.

  1. TheRealAllpro

    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    Too bad I wanted to see Dmo post him up.
     
  2. KlutchQT

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    Breh.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Hearing chatter that DeMarcus Cousins may be out until January. Still extremely ill. Not looking like anytime soon.</p>&mdash; Carmichael Dave (@CarmichaelDave) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarmichaelDave/status/542067449718259713">December 8, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  3. GMNot

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    No problem.

    Those who read and research will debate the idea scientifically. Those who don't or won't, can call it nonsense, with no rational basis. The links were given for those willing to read and reason; and for those who might not be aware of its existence. All are certainly free to ignore them. I have no desire for prolonged discussion -- at least when there is no reasoned basis in a rebuttal. Anyone interested can find all the information needed to consider the subject online.

    Even at low oral doses, PubMed is full of papers indicating the positive role (nonsense) of ascorbic acid in human health.
     
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    PubMed has conflicting evidence of many things that people use vitamin C for. People who are not deficient in vitamin C really has no "proven" benefits of using it.

    If all it took to treat viral meningitis was IV vitamin C, some company would already made it to market.
     
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  5. sugrlndkid

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    Viral meningitis falls under the category of Aspetic meningitis. Viral Meningitis, while not as bad as bacterial meningitis, is still just as debilitating to people. They basically came to this conclusion, by essentially ruling out other causes of aseptic meningitis (ie. TB, lymes, etc). The fact that Doctors are looking at a January return should indicate the severity of the infection.

    To start, most docs start with empiric coverage for bacterial meningitis just incase... and after culture and CSF results come back, will determine if a different organism is responsible for the symptoms of meningitis. Most viral meningitis is treated conservatively (ie. pain meds, and antipyretics); some with certain antivirals. Hopefully Boogie gets better...he was having a really nice season.

    Dont really understand the Vitamin C tangent...but whatever...
     
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    But basically it's a bacteria that has invaded his immune system and he feels sick like the flu? What makes him more susceptible than others ? I wld not treat him with antibiotics in that case.
     
  7. sugrlndkid

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    Watt??(j/k) The reason for empiric treatment with antibacterials is just to address the worst situation as quickly as possible. You dont want to fry someone's brain while waiting to see what is causing the infection. Its defensive medicine. Once you get the results of the CSF, you can narrow your therapy to a certain cause. Using an analogy, you start catching fish with a net...not with a spear.

    Last point a virus is not a bacteria. They are two individual agents that are known to cause infections.
     
  8. GMNot

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    Correct about research being conflicting in some cases. Mostly conflicting when dosages were too low and not taken often enough to be effective. But your assertion that it has no benefits only means you haven't really researched the subject. I don't know of anyone who has looked at all the information available -- especially pro, but also con and came away thinking it has no benefit. If you don't have the time or interest, fine. Just don't make pronouncements not based on researching the subject.

    The mixture for IV use is commercially available from compounding pharmacies -- an example listed here. Most physicians using it don't mix the solution up for themselves -- they buy it. The liposomal form has been commercially available for years now and is accumulating a very good track record with viral infections -- of all types.

    Most people don't know how to use standard oral vitamin C so they think it is useless. This article explains why and how to use it properly vs. taking it without knowing the details. The "proof" is easily acquired subjectively by using it and using it properly -- especially the liposomal form. Liposomal technology was first developed for delivering pharmaceuticals.

    Experience is the best path to proof; not arguments or assertions back and forth.
     
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    Not like a guy his age could give the other "D" anyways.
     
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    :p
     
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    Absolutely killing my fantasy hopes, but I promised when I started playing fantasy that I would never put my fantasy team over the Rockets. So this is good news, at least insofar as injury news is ever good news.
     
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    1) What do you mean most people don't "how to use oral vitamin C"? That is just straight up absurd. You don't need the extra vitamin C if you're not deficient. It is also water soluble, so even if you take more than normal, it gets eliminated. Why are you pulling up random articles that have no basis for what you're stating? The title for that article is "Can vitamin C cure Ebola?". No, it can't.

    2) Experience is definitely NOT the best path to proof. People can have different experiences so this is why anecdotal evidence is not reliable. The ONLY way to prove something with a predefined confidence interval (usually 95%) is by a randomized, non-standardized clinical trial.

    Please stop arguing with others about Vitamin C. You are not an expert by any means on statistical analysis, vitamin C protocols, dosage forms, or its uses.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Also, DeMarcus Cousins is expected back in the lineup Thursday under a minutes restriction. Malone was a game way from his return.</p>&mdash; Jason Jones (@mr_jasonjones) <a href="https://twitter.com/mr_jasonjones/status/544568894351237120">December 15, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     

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