I guess it is OPEN SEASON to kill black men in America...no one seems to care.

Logic and facts eh...like calling a man who died at the hands of the police names and blaming everything police do and the people they do it to? Mature stuff like that?

You're a mindless apologist.

 

Well... The problem with Bobby is he has no love in his life. He probably has a few internet friends, and little to no family. When you are that separated from love, you tend to fill the void with resentment and/or hate. A good example of this is his continued name calling of Eric Garner. My parents taught me to respect the dead. I guess Bobby's parents skipped that lesson. In fact, I bet the house that Bobby's parents are divorced, and he had little to no interaction with one of them. He has so much hate in his heart. He uses clutchfans as a means to release it, but this is not real life. He really needs love, some friends, and closure on whatever occurred during his childhood that made him the person he is today. As of right now he's a gun yielding belligerent, and that's a very scary thought.

 

Let's take this one thing at a time.

1. The man died because of terrible health, mostly because of being a fat sack of s*** who unfortunately had asthma, not because he was being abused by the police.

2. The man resisted arrest despite knowing better as evidenced by the dozens of other times this career criminal was arrested.

3. Cops tackle people who resist arrest and lay them in a prone position while putting cuffs on them ALL THE TIME.

4. If you knew the laws on the books, and the legal definitions they use, you'd have a much more educated opinion on the case and you most likely would understand why there was no indictment.

5. If the fat tub of s*** happened to be white instead of black, he'd be just as dead, but no one would care because it doesn't further their narrative that they want established.

 

1) If he was white they would not have hassled him as much or escalated the situation as quickly.

2) I would care if he was not black-- just like I care when this happens to latinos all the time as well, and just like I care about that baby who was burned and permanently scarred with a flash grenade during a no knock drug raid (the bomb was thrown through a window into the baby's bed while they slept -- so that child awoke to having its flesh seared -- but I am sure you'll blame the baby, or the parents (who, like Garner were committing a non violent crime)).

edit: no charges were pressed then either of course.

 

That's the thing in his posts that I find so disgusting. If he wants to weigh in on the case and give his opinion, fine -- but why go after a man who has already died like that. It is the most classless and pathetic thing imaginable. People are grieving over that person. People loved that person. They died in conflict and needlessly -- regardless if you think their murderer should be prosecuted or not, why disparage the man who died like that?

 

Hamjam dude stop wasting your time with bobby he will never understand what's really going on he's been trolling this thread since it started.

 

Yes, they would have. When cops see people breaking the law, they arrest them, if they resist arrest, the situation escalates no matter what race. The fact that you assume that white officers are racist, is in itself racist views. You should probably be ashamed of yourself for judging them by the color of their skin rather than the content of their character. They merely did their job.

The point is that you'd have never heard about it because it doesn't further your twisted world view. How much have we heard about the black officer that shot an unarmed 18 year old white kid in Georgia? There's a reason for that. It parallels Furguson, but no one cares because it won't further their agenda.

As to the case you brought up about a flashbang hurting a child, of course I blame the parents. When you are a criminal, you can get your family hurt.....that's why you shouldn't be a criminal. Should that surprise anyone?

 

Okay -- thanks for the advice.

 

I feel like I'm trying to explain Trigonometry to 3 year old children in this thread. I should probably just accept that it can't be done and let them go pack to eating play-doh and licking windows but for some reason I keep trying.

 

Bobby once again you have missed the whole point of this thread,you have shown that you have no clue there has been so many people on here that have made great points but you can't see because your head is in the clouds.

 

The point of this thread is to try and push a false narrative, that cops are out to kill black people. I reject this false premise, and have tried to reason with those who ignorantly follow follow said false premise.

 

NO it is not it's about justice if you pay attention you would have known that but you and your biased ways don't see it the American people are tired of these things happening and cops getting off it's not just about white cops killing blacks or browns ,whites it's about justice.

 

They have moved the goalposts so many times I'm not even sure they know what they're protesting. Can they even remember Mike Brown's name? They dropped him like a rock when they thought the Garner incident was easier to argue. hypocrites

 

Justice? Justice was served in both the Brown case and in the Garner case. Only the most ignorant wouldn't be able to see that. The Brown case was clearly self defense, the Garner case was a legally justifiable action that led to an accidental death. There was no crime in either case committed by the officers, yet you talk about justice? You don't want justice, the protesters don't want justice, they want to see someone strung up because a black man is dead and they want revenge. That's not at all the same thing and if it were a bunch of people out in the streets calling for "justice" after a black man killed a white man in self defense or in another legally justifiable manner then I'm pretty sure we'd be calling those people racist. Just something to think about.

 

The Garner case is much easier to argue. They actually have half of a case here. Even I understand some of the libtard arguments on this one - it's sketchy, but really only if you look at it from a legal and policy standpoint. The emotional, "blame it on race" reaction these idiots usually reserve for cases like these is completely misplaced here - this one has no racial component. As usual, they are mostly wrong, and the stuff they get right they tend to get right for the wrong reasons.

But they are no less the hypocrites for it.

 

In the Garner case there is absolutely half a case, the problem is that is falls apart when you go by the laws on the books and use the legal definitions of important words. There is absolutely a case if you take the laws on the books and use layman's definitions for specific words instead of the proper ones. It's a perfect storm of confirmation bias meets ignorance.

 

what other standpoint is there to judge the incident from?

 

Bobby - separate the legal justifications from the moral / ethical justifications. I agree that the police likely broke no laws in this case, although I think there is still a bit of question on that (probable cause... I dunno). But MORALLY...

This guy was breaking tax laws essentially. He was argumentative and uncooperative but did not aggressively resist. He did not appear to pose a threat to the police. Restraints were fairly typical, but even after he indicated difficulty breathing they did not pull him out of prone.

Anyone trying to argue this as murder is an idiot. But I think other charges might apply. Problem is department policy intervenes in cases where a cop is involved. They are gonna get some leeway - as they should - but we DO have to watch that leeway doesn't get abused.

I can see the cop getting off but the Department getting sued out the wazoo as a just settlement here. I blame the NYPD and the state's ridiculous laws more than the cop in this case.

 

Bobby i'm not about go over this with you again there was no justice the cop in NY has been sued a couple of time with one more case pending there are several more cases that show that there has not and remain to be no justice.

 

I'm a Texan bro. I am not familiar with NY state law, and I am quite sure my opinions are biased because of it. God, I hope so...

+1 on confirmation bias. Aren't all of these cases like that?