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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Two Sandwiches, Jul 11, 2014.

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    But Rondo would take the ball away from him. Rondo is pretty close to worthless on offense when the ball isn't in his hands and Kobe is a ball hog. Do you really think Kobe is going to be fine with someone else completely dominating the ball and the flow of the game like that?

    I personally hope it happens because it'll be hilarious.
     
  2. Rashmon

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    Seconded...
     
  3. D-rock

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    With all the talk about Dragon or RR, the likely Morey trade is for Drago and BR instead.

    Kirilenko and/or Born Ready (Stepenson) are the just the kind of out of left field but moneyball type of trades that Maori specializes in. Ka Mate! Ka Ora!!
     
  4. RV6

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    With Kobe and Rondo? Doubtful. They just need to overpay one impact player (asik?) and they'll be attractive to cheaper vets like AK47 and scola

    Rondo
    Kobe
    AK47
    Randle/Scola
    Asik/Hill

    thats just one example though...there are plenty of those impact players available as UFA this summer. I doubt it'll be a repeat of this past off season, if they have both Rondo and Kobe inked.
     
  5. oogie boogie

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    Drummond?

    Detroit isn't trading him.

    They're going to trade Monroe most likely. Not Drummond.
     
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    What team and for what?

    You don't realize how limited the trade market is for Monroe. No team is going to trade for him without having the ability to re-sign him. That means they have to have CAP SPACE to re-sign him with because he doesn't come with Birds rights. Now go ahead name the team that is going to give up assets and will be $12-15 million under the cap in 2015 to be able to re-sign him.
     
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    They will trade Drummond if this is what it takes to re-unite SVG and Dwight.
     
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    Smith+Drummond+Unprotected first for Howard.
     
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    Don't know. I'm not an insider. Just a basketball fan that can make a good guess. Monroe and Drummond doesn't fit. It's a bad mix. It's been a bad mix before Smoove even came to Detroit. They even have Monroe coming off the bench now. He's an UFA. They didn't offer him a contract. Monroe is bolting from Detroit as soon as free agency starts. It's almost guaranteed that next season he won't be a Piston.

    It's not like Monroe doesn't have value either. If SVG was a smart man then he would at least try to get something out of Monroe. Plus teams don't have to throw everything at him since he's an UFA that can leave as soon as free agency starts. It would be a low risk/high reward trade for any team.

    Maybe Phoenix wants to make a push for the playoffs? Or what about the Knicks wanting to give Melo some help? Could even see the Lakers going after him. There's a lot of desperate teams out there.
     
  11. oogie boogie

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    Knicks. Lakers. Suns.

    Shumpert. Smith. Hardaway. Larkin. Calderon.

    Young. Kelly. Nash. Hill.

    Tucker. Green. Tolliver. Maybe Mook.
     
  12. saleem

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    Why do you want to do that? A healthy Dwight is a must for us. He was the only consistent player for us in the playoffs.

    I doubt if DM is looking to trade him.
     
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    Once again you are not comprehending how not having Birds rights affects teams trading for Monroe. They have to carve out cap space to re-sign him. Monroe's trade market is very limited because of that.

    On the other hand, Monroe does have Birds rights to Detroit. So, SVG can re-sign him to a max 5-year deal with 7.5% raises and make Monroe part of the base of what he wants to do in Detroit. And no other team can match that 5-year 7.5% raises max contract. So, Drummond could walk from Detroit but if SVG puts that contract on the table, Drummond has to walk away from guaranteed $$$s.

    Drummond, on his rookie deal, showing immense potential (but also very high bust potential in my opinion) has very high trade value, enough trade value to likely carry Smith and Jennings out of town with him and bring back a possible second lottery pick in the process. Monroe, without Birds rights, simply cannot do that. SVG will have a very difficult time trading Monroe for any kind of positive value at all because of the fact that there are no Birds rights on Monroe if he is traded.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    My guess is that DM does that if he absolutely hates the Rockets and wants to punish the fanbase with Josh Smith.
     
  15. oogie boogie

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    A player does not lose his bird rights if he is traded. His bird rights are also traded along with him.

    Trade a player with high potential on his rookie contract? That's dumb. You know it's dumb.
     
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    Or maybe he does lose his bird rights after being traded... I dunno. Can you search or up for me bballholic?
     
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    Yep, Monroe removed all leverage from Detroit when he signed the one year qualifying offer.
     
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    He looses his bird rights because he is on a one year contract. Since he has been with Detroit for 4+ seasons they own his bird rights but since he is on a one year contract, if he is traded the team receiving him only gets credit for the one year contract hence no bird rights. Don't know if I explained it very well but BBallholic is absolutely correct.
     
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    Ok, so yeah. Monroe did lose his bird right for any other team because he's on a one year contract. I missed that slight detail. And after further looking, the teams I listed would have cap space to trade for Monroe and sign him to a contract, but after thinking a little.. they have little reason to trade players away for since they could just out right sign him in free agency. So basically you're right & not many teams would trade for him. My bad again.

    Yes, the Pistons can give him a max deal, but that won't happen. Because they would have done that this off-season... So it's likely they won't re-sign him. Be sure for more teams to go out and offer things to Monroe in 2015 though because unlike 2014 he's a UFA which mean they don't have to worry about tying up their cap space for three days and then getting the deal matched.

    Still doe. Monroe has a better chance of getting traded(or leaving) Detroit than Drummond does.
     
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    Mr Falk will square up a deal, and Monroe's future, by the deadline. Yes, when I watch the games I watch the players. Mr. Falk is a player.
     
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