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[Military State] Ferguson, MO

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by percicles, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. dback816

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    Why aren't they rioting then? Why isn't CNN running 24/7 coverage whenever a Korean dude gets killed?
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    They haven't yet convinced themselves that all of their problems are someone else's fault and that the world is out to get them.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    At least we'll get to look forward to more people destroying their communities with riots!!!


    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash">#BREAKING</a>: Grand Jury decides not to indict cop in Eric Garner chokehold death. Latest <a href="http://t.co/xEKulRW4E6">http://t.co/xEKulRW4E6</a> <a href="http://t.co/NguFGsKgnQ">pic.twitter.com/NguFGsKgnQ</a></p>&mdash; The Situation Room (@CNNSitRoom) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNNSitRoom/status/540228050181701633">December 3, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  4. edwardc

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    Just more proof that the system is broken.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    And more proof that if you're a big guy you should just do what cops tell you to do instead of being an ******* about it.
     
  6. edwardc

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    You really have no clue do you this man was minding his own business and get accused of doing something that he wasn't doing.
     
  7. Rocket River

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    hhhmmmm

    Bundy showed us . . .. . have alot of Guns and alot of people willing to fire them
    then the Cops seems to be pretty calm and respectful

    Rocket River
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    First of all, you don't know that he wasn't doing what he was accused of doing. It wasn't the first time he was accused of it and I don't think they were just picking on him. Sure they could have been mistaken, but that's irrelevant because...

    Secondly, it doesn't matter. If cops want to arrest you, then you let them. Fighting them is how you get hurt, especially if you are a big guy.

    In this instance, I could see them pursuing some kind of manslaughter charge but it would have been hard to get that to stick because for the most likely charge

    You'd still have to prove it was "criminally negligent" which is defined as

    The man died as a result of extreme obesity, heart disease, and asthma reacting poorly to the "choke hold" of the officer. Maybe you can make a case that a reasonable person would realize that the man had health issues and that putting him in a choke hold would cause his death but that's not the best case in the world to say the least.

    The officer should be fired for breaking protocol, but it's hard to suggest anything else because the guy really was resisting arrest and he was huge.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    There is certain disobedience that is allowed, and some that get you hurt. Resisting arrest is one of those kinds that get you hurt and rightfully so IMO. He should have just let the cops arrest him and then file harassment charges if he really was innocent. There's a smart way to do things, and a dumb way to do things. I don't think anyone disagrees that telling cops you aren't going to let them arrest you is a dumb way of doing things.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    "White RICH disobedience - Allowed
    Minority POOR disobedience - DISALLOWED AND HURT THEM PLEASE"
    - BobbyTG


    Rocket River
    SMH
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Looking over more possible charges, maybe 2nd degree Manslaughter would have worked in the Garner case

    Even then, you are forced to define his actions as "reckless" which they define as

    Still pretty hard to prove because who could know that the guy would actually die from a chokehold? Also, since a much bigger guy was resisting, there's an argument that it was "reasonable" to take him down using those methods even though they are against police policy.

    Either way, it's a mess.
     
  12. edwardc

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    The cause of Garner's death was "compression of neck (choke hold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police," the medical examiner's office has said. The death was ruled a homicide.

    The New York City Police Department prohibits choke holds.

    Yes he was a huge man so you a taser not a illegal choke hold there was more than two officers there a taser or two could have been used.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    I know that you are all too often a mindless race baiter, but don't be intentionally stupid. Do you really think race is a factor? I guess I shouldn't ask that, because you ALWAYS think that race is a factor. I suppose I should ask, should a reasonable person think that race was a factor? If he was a white 6'3 350 pound man resisting arrest, do you think a reasonable person would suspect that the cops wouldn't have taken him to the ground the same way?

    The lesson here is if you are a big guy, do what police say. A Chihuahua can get away with A LOT more than a Mastiff or Doberman.

    Not being able to resist arrest doesn't make people slaves and it's obvious that we are REALLY removed from actual slavery based on the fact that someone would even say that.
     
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    Exactly. When a police officer tells you to put your hands behind your back, your response should not be "DON'T TOUCH ME"

    Respect the police, idiots.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    And if the taser had triggered an asthma attack and killed him? I think the cop should be fired for using the banned takedown method, but I don't think a reasonable person would suspect that it would cause death so I have a hard time thinking he committed manslaughter. I just see this as an unfortunate and completely avoidable accident if the guy had just gone along with the cops. Fight cops, get hurt.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    ILLEGAL choke hold. . . . .. well nothing is ILLEGAL if you are a cop evidently.

    Rocket River
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    You do realize that by saying it's "illegal" they mean "against police protocol" and not actually against the law right? Should we prosecute NBA players for "illegal defense"?
     
  18. mtbrays

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    Dear God, people. How can you argue that the man deserved to die? And on film at that.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Which man? I don't think anyone is arguing that Garner "deserved to die", it was a tragic accident that he played a part in. No one intended on him dying, but it happened largely as a result of his poor health that no one could have known about, and one of the cops violated protocol in the incident and should be fired for it if he hasn't been already.

    Brown on the other hand, he absolutely deserved to die.
     

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