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Comcast blatantly planning to screw us

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  1. RedRedemption

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    http://arstechnica.com/business/201...-recipe-for-trouble-in-home-internet-service/

    So downgrading from 300GB to 5GB earns you a nice little $5 monthly credit.
    On that 5GB plan using up to 300GB costs you a nice little $295 extra per month.

    Oh man.

    I read this about a few weeks ago and it was so ridiculous I thought it was a joke. This is real people.
    A 300GB cap is only viable if you are living by yourself! For 75% of the population who either have roommates or families, this is a ****ing joke.

    Google Fiber save us!
     
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  2. cheke64

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    I don't have Comcast so I aint worry bout nothing
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    I have Uverse
     
  4. RedRedemption

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    If the FCC just lets Comcast start rolling out data caps then I guarantee you every other ISP will follow suit.
     
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    Wouldn't the ones who don't have data caps be more competitive? I'd think customers would all want to switch to the company that didn't have ridiculous data restrictions.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Just Comcast being Comcast.
     
  7. heypartner

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    This is not new. Just new for you. A 300GB cap has been in place in Colorado for several years.

    I have no problem with this. People who use more than the average increase the price for everyone. I prefer they allow us to buy exactly what we use and price more accurately.

    Due the math dude. $10 per each extra $50gb is $60 per 300 GB which is pretty much their high speed, non-discount rate per line. They are just asking you to pay your share. Basically, buy another line if you have multiple roommates each using 300.

    A 300GB cap has been in place in Colorado for several years. And while you are correct, that 300 is viable for one person, you are talking about heavy users like you and me. But let's say 300 is the average per user. Like you say, you need more for more people. But if you notice, the pricing actually extends it per person

    You Whining Broke College Roommates Just Want the Right to Use 3-4 Times as much GBs and pay the Same as Single Adults


    Why should my 300GB line be overly-priced to pay for your terabyte usage

    That's exactly what you just said...that as a single user I should pay the same rate as college roommates using 3-4 times more than me.

    Ficking Kids...GET OFF MY INTERNET


    :)
     
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  8. RedRedemption

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    Everyone could use 1gb a month and Comcast would just force through a 5GB cap and keep your monthly price the same. Look at what they are proposing to do. If you use less internet then everyone congratulations. You save a whopping five bucks. This is taking the worst aspects of utility billing to skyrocket their profit margins.

    You are not paying for your BANDWIDTH USAGE.
    You are paying for your bandwidth speed.

    At least until data caps are shoehorned again.
     
  9. heypartner

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    You didn't read that correctly.

    That is an option for people like my mom who only play Sudoku and check email. That is not the only plan.

    Is that why you are pissed? Because you read that incorrectly.

    I'm not sure if you are serious. Verizon is one of my biggest clients...and they share with me their pricing calculations. At the end of the day it is all about terabyte usage. Speed is just a throttle.

    You kids debate on the internet and actually think you won't run into someone who has first source info to counter your argument Notice I never argue in the D&D, because I don't argue what I don't know, unlike you apparently.

    I don't think you know what the words you are using actually mean to Comcast and Verizon.

    "You are not paying for your bandwidth usage." Uh, yes you are. "Speed" is just a normalizing metric. They just didn't have the equipment to fairly price it that way, so they averaged it out and throttled you on speed. But Now they do. And now they won't need to throttle the speed anymore.
     
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  10. Nick

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    Can't we all just use the xfinitywifi network that is being broadcast automatically (unbeknownst to most comcast subscribers) via their routers everywhere?
     
  11. A_3PO

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    What is the average monthly data usage per household? How many gigs to watch 10 hours of Netflix?
     
  12. heypartner

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    Are you talking HD?


    For simply math calculations, it's roughly 2GB / hour HD and 500mb / hour SD

    So 10 hours is 20GBs. You're talking 150 hours of HDTV streaming to hit the standard threshold in CO. I've yet to ever come close to my 300 GB / month limit on Comcast Denver except for the few months I allowed neighbors to share my router.

    I think you'd have to be stockpiling HD torrents to reach that limit, or have 3-4 roommates.
     
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    Seems predictable given cable is likely in real trouble with Roku and alternative services that save folks what $150 per month on average... yet folks will still need their high speed Internet Service, so this is the easiest way to save their business model before it all comes crashing down.
     
  14. CometsWin

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    Yep, you cut the cable cord and they just double your internet price.
     
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    In theory, but we still don't hear any threats about doubling pricing vs DHSL, yet, despite 19yr old RedRedemption's shocking wake-up call that he and his 3 roommates will no longer get away with 4x more bandwidth than me as a single payer.

    "You don't pay for bandwidth usage. You pay for speed." LOLs. poor RedRedemption
     
  16. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    They've always advertised their tiers based on speed, not bandwidth usage. Every year I reup they push the speed. I've never ever heard them talk about usage, not once. They're just changing the game because there's no competition to prevent them from changing.
     
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    Despite detesting Comcast, I don't blame them. Trimming off the top 0.5-1.0% data hogs sounds like a good idea.

    Seems like the main argument against it is they will gradually tighten the screws on everyone if this first step is successful.
     
  18. RedRedemption

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    Yep.

    As a consumer this is all I see.
    Time Warner prices based on speed.
    Xfinity prices based on speed.
    Etc.
     
  19. heypartner

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    Again, I don't debate stuff like this without first source info.

    You're mistaken. We as consumer are priced based on usage. We pay for usage as a whole. We are billed in an arcane average/normalize manner because the infrastructure couldn't do more accurate individual billing. They just couldn't efficiently create individual bills based purely on usage and demand for infrastructure reasons, so they averaged everyone and throttled speed at the equipment to get their price points

    Now they are getting closer to actually being able to bill efficiently based on usage (and demand, important distinction) like the electric company can. This is not some nefarious plot; they've been wanting to bill like a utility company for a lg time.

    This means they will stop throttling speed, which is completely counter productive to billing based on usage.

    Did you just hear me!

    Comcast and Verizon will soon stop throttling your Speed, once they can bill efficiently via usage.
     
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  20. shastarocket

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    How will this affect Google Fiber? Their position has been pretty much against the status quo
     

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