[Rosenthal] Astros/Braves Trade Talks Fell Through

I don't get the bad contract on Upton take. The last 4 years he's averaged 26HR's, 83RBI's and a .350 OBP. What Astro has put up those numbers recently. In today's baseball that's not a bad contract for a left fielder who puts up numbers.

 

eventually the team has to stop worrying about being the cheapest franchise possible and start worrying about putting a decent team on the field... we are going to have to over pay for anybody, nobody in baseball wants to play for us.

 

Wrong Upton.

So the Astros are cheap for not wanting to pay a horrible player 45 million?

 

Are you trying to say they are not cheap?

 

No I am asking you if the Astros are cheap for not wanting that horrible contract.

 

they are cheap because they have proven to be cheap... them not wanting the contract just reinforces that fact

 

i wouldn't take BJ's contract for anybody outside of teheran or freeman.

 

That deal was likely on the table for the entire league and nobody bit. Willingness to spend is important, but choosing to spend foolishly is a bad idea.

 

LOL!

Also the "Astros are a bunch of cheapskates, and not taking BJ Upton's awful contract is just another example of how cheap they are" argument is one of the silliest I've ever come across on this board, and I was here for 4-5 iterations of the CSN thread, so that's saying something.

 

im not saying that Upton necessarily is a guy you want to pay but in order for us to get better we are going to have to make some deals like that... it cost money to win, and sometimes you have to pay player A so you can have Player B

Our payroll is a joke, our franchise is a joke and they are not doing anything to fix that. If they dont start changing their reputation around the league than we are going to be doomed for a long time.

Players around the league look at us and see a franchise that isnt going to pay them and isnt trying to get better, so why would they think about coming here?

and seeing as how we keep whiffing on #1 picks, how exactly are we going to get any better?

 

They whiffed on Correa and Appel? They have failed in the major leagues? Man, I didn't even see one of their games.

 

we understand this, but gattis is not worth bj upton's horrible contract.

 

Exactly! That's the point!

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In case it wasn't clear, I was being sarcastic lol

 

How many other #1 picks failed to make it to the majors? Astros have 3 (Correa/Appel/Aiken), while the rest of baseball has 3 (Taylor, Chilcutt, & Bush).

 

Wait, Correa and Appel failed to make it the majors?

Can you quickly tell me about the next dozen horse races, the next three SuperBowls, and the next Presidential election? Thanks in advance!

 

Shoot I'll take some info on tonight's nba games

 

Joel Embiid can't even play for the worst team in NBA history. Complete bust.

 

Correa was 18 when we drafted him...

and, fwiw, the draft in baseball is way more of a crapshoot than other sports. there have been countless #1 picks (as well as high first rounders) that did not go pro. thats just the nature of baseball.

calling correa and appel busts at this point because they've been in the minors for 1.5 and 2.5 years is a joke.

if you want immediate benefit from drafts, go watch the NBA or the NFL.

 

If you can't tell I was joking, you clearly don't read this board enough.

I do want to ask about the countless #1 picks that did not go pro. All have eventually gone pro, except for Aiken. Minor Leagues are still considered pro-ball. There are 6 players in the history of the MLB draft to go #1 and have not played in the majors (3 of which never will). Do you mean first rounders in general, because they almost all play in the majors at 1-1?

Personally, I think Carlos Correa is special. I mean HOF special. Cal Ripken special.

 

Astros talent pool is deep. a lot of guys need to grow into their potential. but it could be a special team, built from the inside out.

Regarding the Aiken pick, they did the right move. No way you risk a #1 pick when your doctors can't sign off on the guy.

losing 3 guys in the Rule 5 draft is a sign of how deep the team is.