CFB Playoff Rankings

Not saying I necessarily agree with it, but Jeff Long has stated the committee will choose "the four best teams, not necessarily the four most deserving teams. Might be their justification to put TCU ahead of BU regardless of the h2h result.

And the rankings tonight will be important. It'll be interesting to see if Ohio State is still a buffer between TCU and Baylor.

 

I wonder what would happen if UT was in Baylor's place right now. I have a feeling the Big 12 wouldn't be so quick to come out with the Co-Champ BS. I know they think they can get 2 teams in, that's part of it, but if UT was the team with its nuts on the dresser... just cant see the Big 12 hanging them out to dry like that.

 

They would be on UT's nuts and so would the media.

 

Exactly. This conversation wouldn't even be happening.

 

Wow. People have a short memory. The Media put OU ahead of Texas in the BCS ranking at the end of the conference play in 2008 which sent OU to the conference championship. Texas beat OU that year.

So no, Texas did NOT get the head to head nod from the big 12 and the media.

 

Different scenario when three teams are involved and one of them is another powerhouse program.

 

There was nothing the Big 12 could do that year, that's what their system dictated in that scenario. The system was in place. And you're talking about a high profile program in OU, not Baylor, which makes the example a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

Now that the conference hangs its hat on "One True Champion" they actually have the power to back their platform but instead they're shying away from it.

If UT was in the driver's seat I think maybe (not for certain) that the Big 12 would be backing the hell out of them right now. Which is why so many left the conference in the first place.

Still puppets.

 

I think the Big 12 is playing cute, trying to dismiss itself from upsetting a member and pinning it to some small chance the conference could get 2 teams -- just for show.

I think the committee needs to come out and force the ball into their court.

Publicly state that they will treat co-champs as not having a conference title. TCU will receive the credit of losing to a conference champ (a slightly less punitive loss), but neither team gets credit for actually winning the conference.

What would the Big 12 do then? Especially if that stance propels tOSU right into a locked and loaded wait list spot...

It's sad Baylor doesn't have the clout to complain to the Big 12. Nebraska, TAMU, OU - they could.

 

So now your completely made-up hypothetical is further evidence for why teams left the Big 12? Okay.

 

Indeed, memories ARE short. The media (AP and Harris) put Texas ahead of OU in the final poll before the conference title games. But the computers favored OU, and thus OU ended up higher in the BCS standings.

But as was noted earlier, that was a 3-way tie. No matter who was voted ahead, they would have been beaten by a team below them with equal record. And OU has as much media bias as UT - unlike a Baylor or TCU - or Texas Tech. Everyone dismisses them from the 2008 tie in part because of their name.

 

3 of the 4 teams that left - A&M, Nebraska, and CU - were all big name programs that would have gotten that benefit of the doubt too. You'd have a point if it was the Baylors and TCUs of the conference trying to leave. You're just making things up now.

 

Baylor's and TCU's cant leave. They aren't worth anything to anyone. They get money and a prestigious conference, not clout. Price paid.

 

Baylor could easily replace Vandy.

The days of worrying about who would want us are far away.

 

Sorry. The coaches favored OU over Texas in the week before the title game which is 1/3 of the BCS formula as oppose to the AP which is none. It's the closest example of the hypothetical proposed. I think a big part of why Tech wasn't in the conversation was that their 1 loss was a blowout while Texas and OU had more respectable performances in their loss.

It's surely not the same exact circumstance as the hypothetical proposed but it seems silly to throw out a "Well this wouldn't happen to Texas..." when the closest example of something like that happening didn't go their way.

Fact is they had the head to head advantage but lost out in half of the human polls for the BCS.

 

Sorry Baylor. Committee clearly doesn't value results enough.

 

The hypothetical was that big name programs get the benefit of the doubt over small-name ones. When you're talking about Texas and OU, they both are big name programs so it's not really relevant. If the argument was between Texas and Tech, the voters would easily have favored Texas, even if Tech had done what OU did. It's the only reason that Ohio State is even in the playoff conversation and ranked above Baylor despite Baylor having better wins *and* better losses.

On the original topic of the playoff, Baylor's chances took a huge hit today. If the committee was inclined to move Baylor over TCU with a K-State win, they would have left TCU at #4. They've made it harder on themselves to justify a move down for TCU at this point. It seems Baylor needs FSU and maybe OSU to lose now.

 

**** Jeff Long.