man y'all should read some of the witness testimonies, they are hilarious this woman grabbed the tape recorder to erase her conversation with the FBI lol page 8 http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370788-interview-witness-41-1.html
I don't believe either of the two autopsy reports necessarily counter that. They do counter the idea that he was shot in the back, but they only really indicate that he shot in the top of the head. That could be someone charging an officer with his head down, or it could be someone kneeling down with his face pointing down.
hmm...to whoever this is leaving anon rep throughout the thread... ^Thanks, though I don't think judging intelligence or temperance based on forum postings is a particularly good idea. Come out and play if you want, I think it'd be fun.
This will blow your mind, but it's different when there is a living "victim" to bring allegations against someone than when there is no living "victim".
Going back to the Grand Jury, Justice Scalia explains the purpose of a grand jury: It is the grand jury’s function not ‘to enquire … upon what foundation [the charge may be] denied,’ or otherwise to try the suspect’s defenses, but only to examine ‘upon what foundation [the charge] is made’ by the prosecutor. Respublica v. Shaffer, 1 Dall. 236 (O. T. Phila. 1788); see also F. Wharton, Criminal Pleading and Practice § 360, pp. 248-249 (8th ed. 1880). As a consequence, neither in this country nor in England has the suspect under investigation by the grand jury ever been thought to have a right to testify or to have exculpatory evidence presented. The prosecutor explains his own expectation of the grand jury: And you must find probable cause to believe that Darren Wilson did not act in lawful self-defense and you must find probable cause to believe that Darren Wilson did not use lawful force in making an arrest. If you find those things, which is kind of like finding a negative, you cannot return an indictment on anything or true bill unless you find both of those things. Because both are complete defenses to any offense and they both have been raised in his, in the evidence. Whether Wilson was right or wrong, the entire grand jury proceeding was pretty much a sham by the prosecutor.
The only reason it was done to begin with was to try and appease the lynch mob no matter what they say. It was kind of a sham because it was a prosecutor bringing forward a case with no reliable evidence to proceed.
You'll never get your point across in this part of the country... Too many people are focused on Brown vs Wilson. They're just watching the surface and not paying attention to the work that is going on underneath. The blatant manipulation of the justice system. They don't mind because they feel Brown deserved what he got.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Official: AR-15 missing from St. Louis police patrol car. <a href="https://twitter.com/CNN">@CNN</a>'s <a href="https://twitter.com/ErinBurnett">@ErinBurnett</a> has the latest: <a href="http://t.co/OeNACkV8g4">http://t.co/OeNACkV8g4</a></p>— OutFrontCNN (@OutFrontCNN) <a href="https://twitter.com/OutFrontCNN/status/537767393192583168">November 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>An AR-15 rifle is missing from a St. Louis police patrol car that was set on fire Monday night <a href="http://t.co/0cqs5RS5PL">http://t.co/0cqs5RS5PL</a></p>— Patrick deHahn (@patrickdehahn) <a href="https://twitter.com/patrickdehahn/status/537767906709635072">November 27, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I really think the biggest issue in this deal is how poorly the governor bungled the first night. By caring more about the safety of those in the lynch mob than the local businesses, he allowed the town to get destroyed. He should have known that those animals wouldn't be happy when they found out they weren't going to get their lynching and would riot, he had the national guard troops and cops to stop it and he decided to let it slide.
This brings the total number of military guns the police has lost to a few hundred. Good thing the army is handing them out like candy. Not to mention Fast and Furious project. I wish the government would worry about their own freaking guns a bit more. r****ds.
It was a total sham, but was only pushed through by the media outcry. What was suppose to be a policy shooting and written off, somehow got forced into the grand jury because the Governor didn't want to take the heat.
Eye witness testimony doesn't matter when it doesn't line up with physical evidence. The gunshot forensics lined up with Wilson's story.
Even if you believe that to be true, there was zero chance that a trial would have led to a conviction. The physical evidence and several black witnesses corroborated Officer Wilson's account. And even if this went to trial, the riots would have simply waited for the trial verdict instead of happening now.
How does creating a sham grand jury help appease people who's problem is that they don't feel the system is fair/honest/etc? It seems it just justifies their complaints.
Not sure what you mean by "creating a sham grand jury", but it is my understanding that the Grand Jury was selected before the event ever transpired.
What's more fair? Letting one person decide or twelve people decide? I understand that there was very little chance that the grand jury would decide to indict due to poor evidence, and that it was a pointless effort, but I think the prosecutor found it more fair to allow a panel of jurors decide that. This was a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. The prosecutor went with the less damning choice.
That would be true if this grand jury worked like grand juries work. But, as noted in the many articles posted earlier, it wasn't run that way. The way the prosecutor ran it was *designed* to produce a non-indictment. You don't put the defendant on the stand. You don't present conflicting evidence. That's not the purpose of a grand jury, and that's never how they are conducted.
So you want no grand jury or a trial that a prosecutor doesn't want to conduct consuming his budget and time?
