You are - statistically speaking - a hell of a lot safer there than you would be living in the Third Ward. And at least you recognize that your views are extreme. That is progress.
Well we do know the kind of kid they raised, so I don't think it's unfair to give them some blame for how he turned out. Also, I know plenty about less than lethal options, none of them were applicable in this case, I even pointed out why. You don't use a taser when dealing with more than one attacker so that would be out even if he had one, you don't use mace in an enclosed area or at close distances or you end up taking yourself out as well so that is out. Rubber bullets could have helped, but might not have stopped him and shooting someone in the finger wouldn't have been enough to push him back initially. The goal here is protecting innocents and protecting the officers, not protecting garbage like Mike Brown. When you attack a cop, you forfeit your life very similar to when people attack soldiers. Hopefully people will learn not to do that anymore out of a sense of self preservation.
so you're saying they lost a son, saw other people profiteering off of that death, and had a smattering for vigilante justice? I mean, given how we're assuming all kinds of things about the family now? it would have been ironic if they called the police or used the courts. hmm. that should change.
So go back to that conversation. You're the one who replied to me initially, and repeatedly have tried to shove the topic into some comfortable bounded region of yours while I've been answering other people's questions and points. If you don't like the topic, then nothing says you have to participate.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Good lord. <a href="http://t.co/0ZGjsh65gv">http://t.co/0ZGjsh65gv</a> <a href="http://t.co/ZgYTFKH9mT">pic.twitter.com/ZgYTFKH9mT</a></p>— Matt Pearce (@mattdpearce) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/537745357552095233">November 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I have a low-minded opinion of both, in case you were wondering. (unless it's vigilante justice meant to push the boundaries of rule of law to rule of algorithm---that I just find intriguing.) But given that all of us are casting aspersions on what happened, I find it interesting how we all diverge. I'm not saying the family are saints. I'm also not calling them the scum of the Earth, especially after they lost a son.
So the only witnesses that say that Brown didn't charge at the officer are witnesses who claimed that the officer shot him while he was kneeling with his hands up.....claims that have been completely destroyed by ballistics and autopsy reports. Good to know.
I think where we differ is that I don't care that they lost a son, they lost a son because he was a terrible person.
I don't think terrible people deserve death. I think the threshold for state-imposed death should be really really high, but I can see why we differ on what should have happened here based on different experiences and focuses with regards to state security. Since we differ on what should have happened in this instance, it is very difficult to agree on what should be done, if anything at all. ... as with all internet debates, agree to disagree. anyways, I think we've exhausted like 6 pages. I've learned quite a bit. To the next pop-in! (thanks for being a good sport).
I believe that YOU want the topic to be police brutality and excessive use of force, disarming the police, etc. You DON'T want to talk about the fact that in this case, most of that is irrelevant. You DON'T want to put the blame where it lies here - on Brown. Your comments on LTL have been laughable. If you are willing to learn on that subject, fine. But trying to debate it when you obviously know nothing about it is... not a good idea.
It's intellectually dishonest for you not to contextualize and bold where I should read. Anyways, you can claw back the discussion to sitting around and declaring that nothing can be done, and nothing should be done if you wish. Have a good one.
Ah yes, now I remember. "Deserve death". We can complete the circle... It's not about what you deserve. When you act like an a$$ and attack a cop you are gonna get what you get. What you "deserve" doesn't matter anymore. You're almost certainly gonna die. Pretty simple, I think.
OK then. McSpadden’s former mother-in-law, Pearlie Gordon, was among those beaten by “a large group of about 20-30 subjects” who had “jumped out of vehicles and rushed” the group of sellers, according to the police report. “You can’t sell this s**t,” McSpadden allegedly said, according to the report. Gordon responded that “unless McSpadden could produce documentation stating that she had a patent on her son’s name (Gordon) was going to continue to sell her merchandise,” according to the report. Countless T-shirts and other 'Justice for Michael Brown' merchandise are being sold online. Similar items were allegedly stolen by Brown's mother and others. More than $1500 in merchandise and $400 in cash was allegedly stolen by the attackers. The family is selling this stuff too (and wearing it themselves, of course). Momma just wanted a monopoly on the sales, that's all.
According to the way you have acted with the Wilson case this officer should have never been charged at all.
