You have to consider all the facts. Your biased look at this is to oversimplify it and only boil it down to some pictures. Consider all the facts. Use this as a learning experience. Even the 3 blacks on the grand jury agreed that Wilson shouldn't have been indicted.
When people break the law, you find them and apprehend them.....part of enforcing the law. His goal was to arrest the thief, which would have prevented him from future crime....at least during his sentence. Unfortunately he attacked the cop and got himself killed ensuring he'll never get the chance to rob another store. If anyone is to blame in this, it's the thieves and the parents of the thieves who failed them. Given that Brown's mom is likely facing an armed robbery case and the father incited a riot, it's probably safe to assume that they didn't raise him right.
The police are not in the punishment business, just the arresting business. Police presence is supposed to be a crime deterrent. Not sure where you're getting your info from.
According to bigtex above, with so many guns officers have to assume each person has a gun..so are we assuming each person is an enemy?
Sure he would have, because conflicted prosecutfrequently give cops a free pass. This time they made a half-assed grand jury case apparently on purpose. Neither of these is a good thing.
You'd be surprised how many like him are actually on the force. Giving a guy who can't control his emotions a gun is dangerous. And there are many of those dudes who nut up at the 1st sign of conflict and reach for their guns. Self preservation and or being a hero is more on their minds than peaceful resolutions. Regardless of the evidence. Wilson ignited the situation to that level when he came back to initiate contact with Brown the second time. He unnecessarily put his life in danger... Especially if he was engaging with Brown the second time knowing he was a robbery suspect. If Wilson didn't know Brown was a robbery suspect _ than technically he killed someone for walking in the street of his own neighborhood. That's an area with high racial tension and there's no telling what was on Brown's or Wilson's mind. But Wilson is the adult of the two and had the gun and an entire police department at his service. Just the same there are always excuses made by the majority when a black person (or other minorities) get gunned down in the street rather guilty or innocent of a crime. I think Brown should be in jail and not the grave and I believe that could have been accomplished. But that's just me. You don't need my help with that officer. You're doing a great job of that on you're on.
i read this article and now im having second thought about this whole thing. at least, there shouldve been a trial to air some of this stuff out instead of no trail at all. ive underlined the parts that really make no sense. cops arent this nice. ppl arent as stupid as brown is made out to be here especially when he was going to college with no felonies. even if he was black this story sounds strange. http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7281165/darren-wilsons-story-side And so we got to read, for the first time, Wilson's full, immediate account of his altercation with Brown. And it is unbelievable. The story Wilson tells goes like this: At about noon on August 9th, Wilson hears on the radio that there's a theft in progress at the Ferguson Market. The suspect is a black male in a black shirt. Moments later, Wilson sees two young black men walking down the yellow stripe in the center of the street. He pulls over. "Hey guys, why don't you walk on the sidewalk?" They refuse. "We're almost at our destination," one of them replies. Wilson tries again. "But what's wrong with the sidewalk?" he asks. And then things get weird. Brown's response to "what's wrong with the sidewalk?", as recorded by Wilson, is "**** what you have to say." Remember, Wilson is a uniformed police officer, in a police car, and Brown is an 18-year-old kid who just committed a robbery. And when asked to use the sidewalk, Wilson says Brown replied, "**** what you have to say." Wilson backs his car up and begins to open the door. "Hey, come here," he said to the kid who just cursed at him. He says Brown replied, "What the **** you gonna do?" And then Brown, in Wilson's telling, slams the car door closed. Wilson tries to open the door again, tells Brown to get back, and then Brown leans into the vehicle and begins punching him. Let's take a breath and recap. Wilson sees two young black men walking in the middle of the street. He pulls over and politely asks them to use the sidewalk. They refuse. He asks again, still polite. Brown tells Wilson — again, a uniformed police officer in a police car — "**** what you have to say." Wilson stops his car, tries to get out, and Brown slams the car door on him and then begins punching him through the open window. What happens next is the most unbelievable moment in the narrative. And so it's probably best that I just quote Wilson's account at length on it. I was doing the, just scrambling, trying to get his arms out of my face and him from grabbing me and everything else. He turned to his...if he's at my vehicle, he turned to his left and handed the first subject. He said, "here, take these." He was holding a pack of — several packs of cigarillos which was just, what was stolen from the Market Store was several packs of cigarillos. He said, "here, hold these" and when he did that I grabbed his right arm trying just to control something at that point. Um, as I was holding it, and he came around, he came around with his arm extended, fist made, and went like that straight at my face with his...a full swing from his left hand. So Brown is punching inside the car. Wilson is scrambling to deflect the blows, to protect his face, to regain control of the situation. And then Brown stops, turns to his left, says to his friend, "Here, hold these," and hands him the cigarillos stolen from Ferguson Market. Then he turns back to Wilson and, with his left hand now freed from holding the contraband goods, throws a haymaker at Wilson. Every bull**** detector in me went off when I read that passage. Which doesn't mean that it didn't happen exactly the way Wilson describes. But it is, again, hard to imagine. Brown, an 18-year-old kid holding stolen goods, decides to attack a cop and, while attacking him, stops, hands his stolen goods to his friend, and then returns to the beatdown. It reads less like something a human would do and more like a moment meant to connect Brown to the robbery. Wilson next recounts his thought process as he reached for a weapon. He considered using his mace, but at such close range, the mace might get in his eyes, too. He doesn't carry a taser with a fireable cartridge, but even if he did, "it probably wouldn't have hit [Brown] anywhere". Wilson couldn't reach his baton or his flashlight. So he went for his gun. Brown sees him go for the gun. And he replies: "You're too much of a ****ing p***y to shoot me." Again, stop for a moment and think about that. Brown is punching Wilson, sees the terrified cop reaching for his gun, and says "You're too much of a ****ing p***y to shoot me." He dares him to shoot. And then Brown grabs Wilson's gun, twists it, and points it at Wilson's "pelvic area". Wilson regains control of the firearm and gets off a shot, shattering the glass. Brown backs up a half step and, realizing he's unharmed, dives back into the car to attack Wilson. Wilson fires again, and then Brown takes off running. (You can see the injuries Wilson sustained from the fight in these photographs.) Wilson exits the car to give chase. He yells at Brown to get down on the ground. Here, I'm going to go back to Wilson's words: When he stopped, he turned, looked at me, made like a grunting noise and had the most intense, aggressive face I've ever seen on a person. When he looked at me, he then did like the hop...you know, like people do to start running. And, he started running at me. During his first stride, he took his right hand put it under his shirt into his waistband. And I ordered him to stop and get on the ground again. He didn't. I fired multiple shots. After I fired the multiple shots, I paused a second, yelled at him to get on the ground again, he was still in the same state. Still charging, hand still in his waistband, hadn't slowed down. The stuff about Brown putting his hand in his waistband is meant to suggest that Wilson had reason to believe Brown might pull a gun. But it's strange. We know Brown didn't have a gun. And that's an odd fact to obscure while charging a police officer. Either way, at that point, Wilson shoots again, and kills Brown. There are inconsistencies in Wilson's story. He estimates that Brown ran 20-30 feet away from the car and then charged another 10 feet back towards Wilson. But we know Brown died 150 feet away from the car. There are also consistencies. St Louis prosecutor Robert McCulloch said that Brown's DNA was found inside Wilson's car, suggesting there was a physical altercation inside the vehicle. We know shots were fired from inside the car. We know Brown's bullet wounds show he was only hit from the front, never from the back. But the larger question is, in a sense, simpler: Why? Why did Michael Brown, an 18-year-old kid headed to college, refuse to move from the middle of the street to the sidewalk? Why would he curse out a police officer? Why would he attack a police officer? Why would he dare a police officer to shoot him? Why would he charge a police officer holding a gun? Why would he put his hand in his waistband while charging, even though he was unarmed? None of this fits with what we know of Michael Brown. Brown wasn't a hardened felon. He didn't have a death wish. And while he might have been stoned, this isn't how stoned people act. The toxicology report did not indicate he was on PCP or something that would've led to suicidal aggression. Which doesn't mean Wilson is a liar. Unbelievable things happen every day. The fact that his story raises more questions than it answers doesn't mean it isn't true. But the point of a trial would have been to try to answer these questions. We would have either found out if everything we thought we knew about Brown was wrong, or if Wilson's story was flawed in important ways. But now we're not going to get that chance. We're just left with Wilson's unbelievable story.
You can practice officer safety without being paranoid. I do it every night. I don't know who I'm stopping when I come into contact with someone. Whether it's a "routine" traffic stop, a civil call or a person walking down the street, I don't know if you have a parole board warrant. I don't know if that person has just killed someone, has a mental disorder or just wants to kill a guy in uniform. Being prepared for violence is different that treating everyone like a criminal.
Oh please, I know that you are generally allergic to intelligent takes, but even you can't possibly think that there was cause for indictment given the evidence that has been released. They went above and beyond what they had to do in an effort to appease the lynch mob. There was no evidence that a crime was committed so there normally wouldn't have been even a grand jury....that's not a bad thing.
To whoever left the anonymous feedback, what is the point? Here it is: You were not there. You only saw what all of us saw. Basically you are talking out your ass. You were not there, and the networks were only showing the looters. You do not know. If you wanted to have a discussion, there is a simple "Reply" button. You may be surprised to know that, in modern society, there are more sources for news than the networks. It's not like Ferguson is on the other side of the world and no one knows what's happening there.
I find it hilarious you think you have me pegged down to a T. And if I wasn't already, I am completely convinced that liberalism is a terrible disease.
There's a lot of stupid anonymous rep going around. Some people don't have the courage to put their name next to their comments and that's why they do it that way. We should pity those sad individuals.
love the condescension. now pictures are not facts. And please point to a link where the decisions of jury were given. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/ http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...t_prosecutor_robert_mcculloch_influenced.html
Not really. If you are dumb enough to become a police officer you should be too dumb for lethal weapons.
