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Rondo may not be the perfect fit, but he's probably the best fit.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cmutt, Nov 19, 2014.

  1. peleincubus

    peleincubus Member

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    I'll take either of those 2 point guards. I think with either one Jones becomes good enough with hopeful improvement to win a couple of championships.

    I also think you will see some of the power swing to the eastern conference FINALLY starting next season as the spurs take there downward slope.
     
  2. Space City

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    Gogi was actually listed as a 6'4" SG when he entered the league. He's still definitely capable of playing both positions.
     
  3. Rocket Addict

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    I've been on the Rondo bandwagon since we landed Dwight so I'm not going to back off now. With that said, Dragic would be great too...perhaps even better.

    Dragic would give us more offensive punch if he can round back into form, which we've really needed lately. I trust Rondo when it gets to playoff time. Rondo's mid-range game would also come in handy. In the OKC game, it looked like no one wanted to take the open 15 foot jumper at the elbows against that 2-3 defense.

    There's just one problem, of course. We haven't seen any indication that we could pull off either trade to date.
     
  4. Dave_78

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    Maybe. Assuming you're right, how many players are good enough to inflate their assists numbers to nearly 13 per 36 minutes? That's like pulling down 15 rebounds a night. You can pad your stats a little by missing and rebounding your own bunny shots but you're still one hell of a rebounder to grab that many boards every night.

    He is a hell of a PG who is almost averaging a triple double this season.
     
  5. jtr

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    Two questions I have to ask -

    1) Is Rondo worth a damn without the ball in his hands on offense?
    2) Who is more dangerous with the ball in their hands - Harden or Rondo?

    And read the sig.
     
  6. cmutt

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    That's exactly the point I'm making.

    Rondo hasn't been seen that much the last few years due to injuries, and it seems like people have forgotten just how good of a player he was, and maybe still is.

    - He's a supremely confident former champion.
    - He was a near triple double almost every night. (points, assist, and rebounds)
    - He was a great defensive player with quick hands, long arms, and averaged over 2 steals a game.
    - He frustrated the hell out of CP3 and got the best of that matchup almost every time they played back then.
    - He was an assists machine, averaging 10+ per game
    - and he's mentally tough

    His value has dropped a bit since last year because he hasn't played much, and he's been out of the public eye. Maybe teams were reluctant to give too much for him without seeing how well he came back from the injuries.

    Who knows for sure, but Boston is gonna lose him to free agency unless they trade him this year.

    I for one think he'd be a great fit for this Rox team and I would love to have him here.
     
  7. cmutt

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    1) Look at the post above, and the others that talk about Rondo's qualities... he doesn't just get assist. He plays defense, gets rebounds, steals, and provides leadership on the floor.

    And yes, he's worth a damn on offense even when the ball isn't in his hands, why... it's what most basketball analyst call "the 2nd pass". It's because once he receives a pass, he's a threat to make another great secondary pass.

    C'mon now, Rondo isn't a Dennis Rodman, he's capable of slashing and finishing on drives, and he can hit an outside shot. Give him some credit.

    2) Who's more dangerous with the ball? Hmm... I'd say from a pure basketball point of view... the most dangerous person with the ball is the one who A) either scores a bucket, or B) who assists a teammate in scoring a bucket.

    I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with that question.
     
  8. freddyg956

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    I disagree with part
    If we wasn't already abundantly clear last year... these past 3-4 games have firmly shown that this Rockets team needs a competent floor general (AKA : point guard).

    We are 9-2 for a reason, something is working. I don't believe that Bev is the issue, and honestly I think he has been the 1 consistent player during the stretch of bad games. He is pretty solid from the corner 3. But I do agree that Rondo is the perfect fit. If we can find a way to keep Bev and get Rondo, I agree it would be the best situation for this team once Tjones gets back or if we get a stretch 4.
     
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    What is working is we have played a passel of lottery teams and playoff teams missing their best or two best players.
     
  10. freddyg956

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    So what is the excuse for the Cavs, Heat, Warriors, Blazers, Clippers etc.. losing to lottery teams, and playoff teams missing their best or two best players?

    There is no such thing as an easy game in the NBA, and with the traveling and back to backs, it's not easy to hold a 9-2 record, so come up with a better excuse for a great record.
     
  11. cmutt

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    And that's cool, we all have our own opinions.

    Personally, I think our 9-2 record is due to us having played a few more weak teams.

    But more important than that, I'm going by what I see on the court and how I see the team playing.

    As I said, I like Beverly, just not as our starting point guard. Let's see how things play out the next month or so. If they continue to look bad and inefficient on offense, then we'll know if I'm correct in my analysis or not.
     
  12. wekko368

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    In the past, he's feuded with both Ray Allen and Doc Rivers. He's more of a locker room cancer than a leader.

    No, he can't. Do you remember how he was last beaten in the playoffs? He was continually given wide open jumpers, and he choked.
     
  13. freddyg956

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    Here's the thing: we have lost 2 games, 1 to a good Warriors team with no Howard and it was close. And then to a great Defensive Grizz team. Why is everyone panicking? I agree that the play of late has not been great on the offensive side, but on the defensive side , except for 1 game against the Grizz the defense has been stellar. #1 Defense i should add. So everyone stop with the excuses of the schedule being weak because other teams have played the same teams and have lost while we have won those games.
    It may sound like something Clyde would say, but we have been struggling because we can't put the ball in the damn hoop from the 3. It opens up the driving lanes, it opens the drive and kick for open shots, it opens up the post. Everyone RELAX, but since a Rondo thread, I agree we could use him because of his passing and defense.
     
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    Seriously???


    I'm not going to explain those teams. This is about the Rockets.

    Our record means nothing at this point. We haven't played anybody besides Memphis and we were on the road on the last night of a back-to-back. So we have somewhat of an excuse.

    However......the handwriting is on the wall with this roster. It is incomplete. We need a big that can shoot from distance and be a good fit alongside Dwight and we need a second playmaker. If we don't get those 2 things we ain't going far in the playoffs.
     
  15. Exiled

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    PB & Cannan both can score and handle the ball, the thing is they were't giving a chance to do so, it's Harden who dribble for 17 sec then think of passing, penetrating or shooting the rock with whatever time left..for a change ,let's them try and see how it work, if they can_t do a decent job !then an upgrade is needed
     
  16. HTM

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    Go all in and add Rondo as our 3rd piece?

    Hard pass
     
  17. j_shooter11

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    Rondo is asking for the max from Celtics sooooo don't see how Gogi would be out of their price range if Rondo isnt.
     
  18. jtr

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    The Rockets spent 2 years attempting to turn Lin into a spot up guard and failed. Lin is now gone. The Rockets are not going to acquire another guard who requires the ball in his hands, because Harden is the best guard in the league with the ball. Bev and Canaan hold the PG spot down well for $2M a year. Rondo is going to be asking for $16M a year. This Rondo things comes up a couple of times a year. I do not know why people get the crazy ideas they do.
     
  19. Dave_78

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    To me, this is the only legit concern with adding Rondo. I'm not sure he could co-exist with Harden and Howard. He would also walk all over McHale.

    That was a long time ago. He can definitely shoot the ball now. He is nearly 40% on three this season on nearly two attempts per game. He can't be ignored on offense or he will make teams pay.
     
  20. RocketsJumer

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    Dream scenario would be Gogi and Millsap.
    Jones and TPE for Millsap
    NOP pick and Papa or Terry for Gogi
    Millsap would be more important though.

    Black is not ready, Dorsey was never ready, and DMo is in the in between right now. Tired of watching them get significant time.
     

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