1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Are the Rockets as good as their record indicates?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Andrew Wiggins, Nov 14, 2014.

?

Are the Rockets as goood as their record indicates?

  1. Yes.

    158 vote(s)
    61.7%
  2. No.

    98 vote(s)
    38.3%
  1. Pull_Up_3

    Pull_Up_3 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2010
    Messages:
    6,089
    Likes Received:
    308
    Any team that loses 2 starters loses depth automatically.
     
  2. rocketseagles07

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2012
    Messages:
    1,941
    Likes Received:
    1,286
    No and that's fine. Most of the teams we beat have been getting killed by other teams. We are however good enough to get a top 3 seed and that's fine with me
     
  3. thesonofsam

    thesonofsam Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2007
    Messages:
    954
    Likes Received:
    407
    No but they are a lot better than most experts thought they would be.
     
  4. Andrew Wiggins

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,130
    Likes Received:
    43
    After the Lillard shot and Parsons leaving the insecurity level here. Very few actually read threads or even the OP before they comment. I posted facts and gave my opinion (yes I think we are the best team right now barring injuries) and was attacked over that, my username, and a typo.

    The most interesting here is no one wanted to say what they are defending. The Rockets having the best record in the NBA means they are the best team in the NBA. Our point differential is more than the Grizzlies. I brought up the schedule because everyone else and the media is blaming that for our record.
     
  5. Andrew Wiggins

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,130
    Likes Received:
    43
    fixed
     
  6. basketballholic

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    17,516
    Likes Received:
    4,171
    Our 8 wins have come against teams who are a combined 20-41. That's basically the season record of the second or third worst team in the league. We will have to see how they look after more games against teams that are playoff worthy.
     
  7. FANfrom86toNow

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2014
    Messages:
    4,199
    Likes Received:
    3,284
    I think more than the record, it's HOW they are playing...with the exception of the last game or two. But then, we are still missing two starters. Although they are not our superstars, if you are missing two starters, it will affect your play eventually because of rotations and minutes played.

    This team when at full strength, is light years better than last years team in the WAY that they play.
     
  8. Zergling

    Zergling Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2010
    Messages:
    5,728
    Likes Received:
    3,629
    Like any team, we are doomed for a slump. We won't go on a 8-1 pace the rest of the way, but it is extremely promising to be winning 100% of the games we should be winning. The 76ers near loss hopefully isn't a sign of things to come... OKC should be another "should win"
     
  9. Andrew Wiggins

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,130
    Likes Received:
    43

    You have to count the 76ers twice because we played them twice. Although, I think we beat a team last night that was playing at least 500 ball without 2 of our starters, but their record is still 0-9. The game had a playoff atmosphere.

    The way we win our games says this team is definitely much better. The only player on the roster I expected more from was Black. I knew Dorsey was a mistake. Everyone else has improved (outside of our rookies who no one expected to play this season, but they're both projects).

    Harden - better defense and playmaking
    Howard - defensive monster, free throws are up, no one wants to get in front of him when he tries for the alley-oop
    Ariza - best (bargain) 3 and D guy you can ask for. He knows his role. His defense alone gives us at least 6 points on offense each night. Rebounds very well. I can go on.
    Canaan - I always liked this pick. His stats, and pre-draft numbers all said he was a steal even though he was a bit undersized. He can catch and shoot extremely well, and seems to have this ability to take and make big threes which reminds me of Lowry. He creates his offense when his number is called. He forces it sometimes, but he is still young. He will learn. His defense is good.
    Terry - best catch and shoot player in the league, smart player
    Papanikalou - he is the most surprising by far. I am always optimistic when Morey signs guys from overseas who I've never heard of, but it was hard for me to see what he brings. The contract he gave him made me think he was a proven player, but I had my doubts.
    D-Mo - he is finally looking like he is putting it together. Maybe all he needed was minutes.
    Jones - Still rebounds and puts back shots very well. He looks more polished all-around this season
    Daniels - that shot wasn't a fluke. He can shoot.
    Beverley - It's Pat.
    Garcia - still can't find his shot, but he is better defensively out there. That's what this team is about and everyone from the players to the coaching staff keeps talking about defense and championships. Garcia has been listening.

    Memphis is a big test because they play defense and they have bigs that preset problems for us. Randolph has been playing well this season. After we play Memphis, I will have a better idea of how good this team is.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    27,107
    Likes Received:
    3,757
    It indicates you are not very good at math or understanding that all of these games count in the final standings.
     
  11. Jerry36

    Jerry36 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    1,525
    Likes Received:
    67
    ain't happening
     
  12. Rip Van Rocket

    Rip Van Rocket Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    7,152
    Likes Received:
    356
    We are exactly as good as our record indicates against the teams we have played so far. I don't know how we will fare against other teams.
     
  13. heypartner

    heypartner Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    63,514
    Likes Received:
    59,013
    but you are counting our wins against them. If you don't count the games we beat them in, the record against the league is

    20-33

    fwiw

    and we are 5-0 on the Road. That's huge no matter who it is against.
     
  14. jordnnnn

    jordnnnn Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    11,419
    Likes Received:
    12,679
    From a recent Lowe article...

    In a way I agree with what you are saying. Definitely have to see how things look against better teams, but what we have done so far is what the really good teams do against an easy schedule.
     
  15. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2005
    Messages:
    21,310
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Plus I believe we are in the top of opp pts and point diff
     
  16. Andrew Wiggins

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,130
    Likes Received:
    43
    We played 8 teams a total of 9 times (Philly twice). They should be counted twice, so add another 6 losses (which totals out to 0-14 which is there record minus our two games multiplied by 2) and it comes out to 20-39. Otherwise we are 7-1 if you only want to count one of the wins.
     
  17. eman

    eman Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2002
    Messages:
    4,370
    Likes Received:
    1,920
    I'd suggest resting Harden against OKC, because Memphis is going to be laying the lumber on him.
     
  18. okeezie

    okeezie Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    442
    Likes Received:
    39
    Defense is defense. I don't care who you play. Why was the GS game close with us missing 3 starters? Defense. Why have we won 7 games by double digits? Defense. Why did we win last night despite shooting like crap from the FT and 3 point line? Defense. Do you guys realize the Spurs had the #1 seed last year with a mediocre record against the top teams? Why? Because they beat the dog pooh out of the bad teams. We won 54 games last year with bad losses too Utah, Philly, Lakers, and Sac. So stop with the weak schedule crap. The only thing that matters is defense and if we are playing it or not.
     
  19. StevieCrossover

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2007
    Messages:
    900
    Likes Received:
    253
    55 wins season?
     
  20. TheFreak

    TheFreak Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 1999
    Messages:
    18,305
    Likes Received:
    3,317
    Morey doesn't think they are, and that's all that matters.
     

Share This Page