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The Curious Case of Donatas Motiejunas

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by donatas, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. DaDakota

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    There was a post presence in the GS game, but no one gave a post entry pass to said presence, and DMo RARELY gets a pass when he has position.

    He is a nice defensive big that can get a point here or there on this team, he might be more on another team but that is his role here.

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  2. jtr

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    Just for giggles I uploaded the defensive statistics og a truly bad player- Terik Black.
    If the last column is positive it is very very bad.

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  3. Easy

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    A read and react offense can have defined role. Adelman's big men definitely had defined roles.

    "Defined role" does not mean a stationary spot on the court. Harden has a defined role. Howard has a defined role. Ariza has one. Beverley is kind of unclear. I'd say Bev and Jones are just safety valves on offense. You don't get a defined role when you are the 4th or 5th option.

    DMo is not good enough to be a top 3 option in the starting lineup. But in the second unit, he might. But I don't see it happening.
     
  4. daywalker02

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    You are right but you said when Adelman was on that team. He is not now.

    He overutilized a big guy in the post to pass it inside to smaller guys.

    Dmo is an ok passer but that is not our system with Dwight manning the middle.
     
  5. xtruroyaltyx

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    I watch every rockets game and you are just incorrect.

    I've seen him hit the ground several times with no foul call and really the foul being called is not relevant unless he's flopping which I don't think he is. He's either lacking in core strength or balance....maybe both.

    He is a pretty good defender down low though. Pretty technically sound.

    But overall he's still not strong enough inside, especially when it comes to going for 50/50 balls/rebounds.
     
  6. YOLO

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    you obviously haven't watched him much this year. he spends half the time getting pushed around
     
  7. jtr

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    NBA bigs that rank this highly in defensive presense are not getting pushed around. And I do have league pass and watch every rockets game twice.

    In case you do not understand the import of this data, it comes directly from SportsVU, where every single NBA play is analyzed to death and databases are built expressing player performance. And these are some of the best big man defensive stats in the league. Equal to Hibbert and much better than Howard, Gasol or Asik. Black for instance has 35% more field goals converted against him than D-Mo. Howard has 5% more. So you should try tempering your ill regarded opinion.with some actual hard cold facts.

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  8. Fyreball

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    He doesn't have the size to battle down in the post, period. He gets pushed out of position way too easily. He has good defensive footwork when being faced-up, but the second he has to battle for a rebound or post entry, he gets knocked off the block.
     
  9. jtr

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    You must be thinking about the D-Mo from two years ago weighing in at 220 pounds. D-Mo is seven foot tall and weighs in at 270 pounds. There are few NBA players bigger than D-Mo. Maybe Hibbert can push him around. Probably. But almost no one else can.
     
  10. YOLO

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    sorry but he's getting pushed around. not only by bigs but guards as well. he has nowhere near the strength right now to battle most of the nba bigs on a nightly basis. ill give you that he is bigger than previous year but still has a ways to go as far as strength. you can post all the stats you want but unless you see how much time he spends getting knocked around and falling on the floor you won't get what half the posters are saying in this thread.
     
  11. YOLO

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    btw he is not 270 lbs not even close.
     
  12. Progs

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    Man it truly sounds like some posters on here would rather have Black and Dorsey playing more than Dmo. Ridiculous.
     
  13. Francis3422

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    Motiejunas seems to do well with staying in front of his man. His strength on the defensive end is utilizing his quickness.

    Still seems to struggle with core balance and ball security in general. He is below average in regards to "toughness".
     
  14. jtr

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    Here is a post from eight months ago listing him at 259 pounds. At the end of last season when Asik was reported to be tipping the scales at 290, D-Mo did not look much smaller. You should attempt to use more up to date data.

    http://hoopshype.com/players/donatas_motiejunas.htm

    And here is an image of Asik next to D-Mo eight months ago. Keep in mind that they are of equal height.

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    D-Mo is obviously the second biggest guy on that court.

    How big is D-Mo this year? This big.

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    andrew bogut isn't even 270 and Dmo isn't even close to Bogut's size. quit believing everything you read online and actually see things in real life.
     
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    That pretty much explains how Andrew Bogut grabbed 18 rebounds against Houston smh.
     
  17. jtr

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    You truly have absolutely no clue do you? Please tell me you have League Pass and watch the Rockets game again with an active RW button. Or, more likely, are you one of those poor souls in Houston Texas without the ability to watch Rockets games?

    And because you obviously do not keep up with NBA Rockets news, D-Mo is a gym rat who spends many hours a week pushing ever more weight up and down. He is a big strong man even by NBA standards for bigs.
     
  18. Z-Ro&Trae

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    Well realistically, D-Mo's not that much better than them.
     
  19. YOLO

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    and asik was never 290 lbs lol. do you not understand what you're trying to say and how ridiculous you sound.
     
  20. jtr

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    Or could it be due to Blacks complete lack of any clue, or the time Papa played at the center position? I have the answer. Do you?
     

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