Sources: Coaches frustrated w/Clowney, some Players say he's a diva

Forgive me for not understanding how you definitively know that right now.

 

So what do you specifically want fans to do about it? Cry and sad-sack it like this thread? Tar and feathers? Pitchforked and torch wielding mob?

 

Injured
Performing as expected
Performing as expected
Injured
Performing as expected

That's their first 5 picks. Everyone after that was 6th round or later.

I'm not really sure what you're so upset about.

 

The only guy who could arguably be playing more than he has is XSF, but when you consider he's sitting behind two guys who were drafted in the top 100 two years ago (IOW have two years of development and experience), it looks really dumb to rage at the Texans for the lack of rookie contributions.

The only "rookie" who can physically play that needs PT right now is Mallet, and he's about to get it.

IMO it seems like a lot of people are misplacing their anger at the 2012-2013 draft classes at the 2014 class simply because they have the Rick Smith stank on them.

 

Really? I agree with you about the injures, but the #33 pick only playing a handful of snaps a game, unable to unseat a subpar LG in Ben Jones is "performing as expected"? A 3rd round TE also only playing a handful of snaps with 2 catches in 9 games is "performing as expected"? Those are some mighty low expectations you must have had.

 

Are you being serious or sarcastic?

1. Clowney can't get on the field.
2. XSF can't beat out Ben Jones who is below average. An OG picked at #33 is expected to come in and be the starter otherwise you don't draft him that high.
3a. CJ Fiedorowicz - The next Gronk has been underwhelming and you don't draft TE's that can only block that high.
3b. Nix - O'Brien "Nix really doesn’t totally get it, has got a long way to go”
4. Savage - Project long shot QB. As expected.
6a. Pagan - made the team and added depth
6b. Blue - contributor and a nice pick.
6c. Hal - made the team and solid pick

 

This team has holes everywhere, was the worst in the NFL. If the guy you picked at 33 can't get on the field, that was a waste.

 

Yeah, no.

Not unless they invent a 3rd guard spot.

Myers is gone next year, Jones moves to C, and XSF starts the whole season.

Anyone expecting XSF to come in and start immediately had pre-maturely written off Jones/Brooks.

Also, expecting CJF to make a huge impact, considering his role, is kinda weird.

Both of those guys are contributing at exactly the level I expected they would their first year.

If you want to be pissed about anything this year, the 2011-2013 draft classes are a good place to start.

 

XSF sucks. He didn't just lose a hard fought battle for position, he blows hard. You have a really optimistic view of his performance this year. He was no where near NFL level on pass protection. If Ben Jones stepped his game up and beat him, that would be fine. But XSF played his way off the field.

 

I never put high expectations on rookie linemen, both offensive and defensive. Duane Brown blew monkey butt his first year. I don't think Jones/Brooks are lost causes, and they deserve their chance to earn spots next year. XSF can sit and grow a bit so he doesn't spend an entire year learning on the job. Jones moves to C (his more natural position) and everyone lives happily ever after.

 

If the Texans thought Jones and Brooks were starting quality then it was a mistake taking XSF at #33. Not to mention he can't even get on the field to see limited action because he's such a liability.

 

Guess who is getting cut this offseason?

 

Both he and AJ are gone. That's well known. He still can't beat out two lineman who are average to below average at their position.

 

Duane Brown in his rookie season was miles better than XSF at 26th overall. He traded drives with Ephraim and played every game. This legend of him sucking has grown just because he dramatically improved to a top left tackle. Schaub was sacked 23 times and SS ran over 1200 yards that year. I'm not sure what is more insane, saying XSF is as good as 2008 duane brown, or saying XSF will have a DB type improvement.

 

I remember seeing an interview with Ephraim on this very subject. Duane was struggling a ton his rookie year. He was hot garbage. After every game he cried in his locker. Salaam knew he was better. The team knew he was better. The coaches knew he was better. But Duane was forced to play, because it was OTJ training for him. He was the future, and they needed him to grow up fast, even if it resulted in the team suffering.

Since Jones is your center of the future, I think it would be stupid to bench him so XSF can get OTJ training. XSF has the luxury of not being needed immediately. Let him grow into the role. Most rookie linemen suck. No idea why so many here expected XSF to come in and start immediately. Between the rookie learning curve and the fact Jones/Brooks were about to hit their prime contributing years, the thought hardly entered my mind after the draft.

Granted, now that the season is a totally lost cause, you may see some more rookies playing. Although not on the OL, because Mallet needs all the help he can get.

 

XSF does suck. The learning curve for an interior lineman is nowhere close to the learning curve of a left tackle. He should have been starting from day 1, but he just isn't good

 

If we missed out on anybody. It's Mariota. Dudes is the total package. Why couldnt he want to play for the Texans?

 

I dont think he thought he was realistically going to get drafted high

 

2011-2013 is why I'm already ready to write off an underwhelming start for the 2014 draft class.

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I'd be shocked if Jadeveon Clowney didn't play against the Browns this week. Hearing that the bye week did wonders for the rookie OLB.</p>&mdash; Jayson Braddock (@JaysonBraddock) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaysonBraddock/status/531942395101732865" data-datetime="2014-11-10T22:52:04+00:00">November 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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