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[SportsTalk 790] David Robinson or Dwight Howard

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by yobod, Nov 7, 2014.

  1. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    Robinson was clearly better the Dwight. Robinson is one of the only players to have his soul taken from him on the court though. Shouldn't have taunted Dream with that MVP trophy.
     
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  3. Spacemoth

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    It really was a golden age of centers. As far as game goes, Dwight is much more similar to Mourning than any of those other guys. He might even have been a bit better than Mourning since the guy was so injury prone.

    I would say Dwight is a bit behind Robinson for now, but that's not a fair comparison since he's also 28. Who knows what the future holds. You look at those famous centers, and a lot of them put up their best years between ages 29-34. I say Dwight still has a shot to surpass Robinson, but it won't be by putting up bigger numbers in the regular season. No, his defining measure of success will have to come in the postseason.
     
  4. dandorotik

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    Oh, please, he didn't taunt Dream any more than Dream holding up the trophy in 1994- which was also awarded to him on his home court. I understand Dream's wise decision to motivate himself the way he did ("He's got my trophy"), but truth be told, Robinson had a statistically great season on the team with the best record in the NBA, the formula for an MVP- and Dream was injured for part of 1995- so he understandably didn't win it. But again, I understand Dream's reasoning (as a means for motivation), even if it wasn't really accurate.
     
  5. Exiled

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    Hakeem entire career was under rated by the media and fans away from The Summit

    When he scored a lot ,he was called selfish
    When his team did't do well, he was called a non- team player
    Even during all-star games or in the Olympic! he was considered a 2nd or 3 rd star tier ,having little to no significant PT.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Very hard to compare centers across era. Today's game is so different.

    But yeah, Robinson was better.
     
  7. JCDenton

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    Sorry bro, they're the same player. Both were low offensive skilled power centers. Compare them at their peak. Peak stats have to be used since unlike Dwight, Willis had a 23 year career (something Dwight will never come close to and I will retire from clutchfans if he does):


    Dwight 2009-2010
    PPG: 18.3
    RPG: 13.2
    APG: 1.8
    BLK: 2.8
    STL: .9
    AST: 1.8

    Willis 1991-1992

    PPG: 18.3
    RPG. 15.5
    APG: 2.1
    BLK: .7
    STL: .9
    AST: 2.1

    Results: 2 ties, 3 Willis wins, 1 Dwight win


    I am not sure what your point with this is. Yao being a top center of his generation and yet still getting upstaged by fossilized Mutombo only drives home the point that Dwight couldn't have hung with the true centers of the 90s. Yao has never been a top 5, or even top 10 player though, even when producing his career best numbers:

    http://str8hoops.wordpress.com/top-50-nba-players-2006-2007/

    He was a top center, but only because there weren't other good centers.

    Great argument, but you don't just get to say "no" and claim victory. The Rockets won 10 games in a row after Yao went down. Mutombo after Yao's injury actually posted a much higher wins produced stat than Yao had posted (0.209 vs. 0.382). Beyond that, with Yao as starter, the rockets were .586. With Mutombo as starter, the Rockets were .625. Get this through your head jabronie: Mutombo at 40 years old was dramatically better than the very best of Dwight Howard's contemporaries in his prime.

    http://wagesofwins.com/2007/03/08/the-surprising-mount-mutombo/

    I said struggle to stay in the Top 10, and this is true. It's already established that 40 year old Mutombo is much better than Yao and Dwight, so obviously prime Mutombo was absolutely out of their league. However, Dream, Robinson, Shaq, Ewing, and Mourning were all definitely better than Mutombo. Then you have Brad Dougherty who was also very good (especially considering the competition he was up against). That's seven centers, so Dwight could be 8th at best. He would be banging around for those last few top 10 spots with Rik Smits, Vlade, Seikaly, and Willis.

    As you can see, you were no match for Clutchfans Official Statistical Genius.
     
  8. 3Rings

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    As much as I hate to say it, Robinson is a better player than Dwight.

    When I look at Dwight's game, I think Otis Thorpe and Kevin Willis. Not a HOF caliber center.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    Robinson was not just skilled but freakishly athletic. His legacy was just dismantled because of Dream.
     
  10. Ziggy

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    As far as eras go, I think Dwight rates a bit better than Robinson. Don't get me wrong - Robinson would be better right now in this era. But Robinson's rank opposed to his peers compared to how Dwight ranks to his peers today... Howard by a smidge.
     
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    Not fair comparison... Howard has not finished his career
     
  12. Icehouse

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    Robinson in this era might be talked about as a GOAT candidate. Look at how folks are drooling over Anthony Davis. Robinson is tailor-made for the rules of today.
     
  13. JesusAllen

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    he be on alonzo mourning level impact in the 90's. Which is great , but not David Robinson.
     
  14. Deckard

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    I'm a big fan of Dwight's, but have to say Robinson was better. If Dwight helps lead the Rockets to a couple of titles, I'd like to revisit this thread. I might change my mind.
     
  15. Houstunna

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    Jordan did. Nevermind his awesome dunks, MJ had the best layups and circus shots ever.

    Why don't teams use this profound illegal defense to stop Dwight or against Prime Duncan?
    Because it doesn't work. Rules haven't changed post players dominance, players did. Fronting post players and "zoning" only works on unathletic players like Yao.

    Another thing to consider is the crap talent at center nowadays. Robinson would average 30/15 today and win DPOY until they got tired of giving it to him.

    No sir. Robinson played Hakeem great head-to-head, it was almost a wash. Dream had a great postseason series against David, then everyone forgot how close they were as players.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=olajuha01&p2=robinda01

    True
     
  16. JesusAllen

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    Dwights going to the hall of fame. mitch ritchmond, Chris Mullen and Reggie Miller got in....Dwights Resume Is on track to be just as good (if not already) or better than all of them.
     
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    Hakeem can and did. Never forget.
     
  18. dandorotik

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    Come on, even Hakeem called him one of the great centers.
     
  19. oakdogg

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    I don't think you know Kevin Willis very well. Willis was a POWER FORWARD in his prime, had a GREAT midrange jump shot, but did not block many shots at all. How the heck does that remind you of Dwight?

    To answer the OP's question, Dwight is nowhere close to David Robinson offensively. After umpteen years in the league, Dwight still looks like he doesn't know what he's doing in the post. Not saying he doesn't do a lot of great things - but his lack of coordination in the post is actually pathetic to me after this many years. I look at Harden, and I think there is no way I could do the things he does no matter how long I practiced. I grow 8 inches tonight, and i bet i have a better post game than Dwight tomorrow. Nice that that gets you $20 million.
     

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