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Senate, 2014

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Oct 6, 2014.

  1. basso

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    good times.

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  2. basso

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    Last night's wave election was a rebuke of Democratic policies and agenda-setting, and a complete repudiation of Obama's leadership. When you have the economic problems, the foreign policy problems, and the health problems that this nation faces, it is inconceivable that the Democrats are spending their time in Washington on gay marriage, global warming, and the name of the Washington football team. The Democrats just simply lost touch and the electorate gave them an intervention.

    Now let's see Jeb Bush (Florida) team with John Kasich (Ohio) to take back the Oval Office. Hillary can then be named Ambassador of Libya.
     
  4. Bäumer

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    only a liberal ...

    Yeah its an old pic but don't speak in such broad generalizations.
     
  5. tallanvor

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    Bush didn't put that up, the soldiers did. Bush should of asked them to take it down though.
     
  6. FishBulb913

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    The soldiers sure are crafty.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    Last nights election displayed that beating to death buzzwords with negative conotations wins elections because majority of the American public are morons. Defecit shrinking, unemployment cut in half, no active wars where American troops are dying every month... Yet talk to a right winger and they act like they are prepping for the end times because our "American values" are at risk.

    Does anyone else notice this? Right wingers love using extremely vague terminology to describe negative attributes to this administration's policy such as "unAmerican", " unChristian", "loss of American values" , "loss of freedom", " socialist", "Islamist", " Marxist", "lack of leadership", " unpatriotic", "hates veterans" etc... It's almost as if they have no specific legitimate criticism.

    Fortunately for Democrats, demographics for midterms and presidential elections are very different.
     
  8. Dubious

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    Because the offshore location allows the US government to hold political prisoners outside of the jurisdiction and protections of US law. It shows us to be lawless bullies instead of the defenders of freedom and takes away the moral high ground so that we appear no better than the forces we are fighting against.
     
  9. Space Ghost

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    I have a serious question for the Liberals ... especially the likes of McMark and CometsWin.

    How did you guys let the Republicans back in? Lets highlight a few factors;
    This has to be some of the worst Republicans running for office in the last 10 years. NONE of them are interesting or inspiring. The party is a mess and there is absolutely no unity. My thought? Obama has shamed the Liberals. Republicans have been saying this guy is in over his head long before he was elected. He really thought Chicago represented America and expected us all to follow in his master plan of "Hope and Change". This of course, created gridlock and discord in his own party.

    Times are actually getting better. Its interesting how gas prices when up immediately when Democrats took control, and now the gas prices are lowering as the Republicans come in office.
     
  10. basso

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    Walker/Martinez.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Prime example of no specific legitimate criticism.
     
  12. tallanvor

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    If Obama felt this way he should not of sent troops into battle for 4 years. Why would he send men/women to die for a war that you say was 'lost from the get go'?
     
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  13. fchowd0311

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    I hope conservative posters on this message board are not keeping their hopes high for a Republican win during the presidential elections. Remember, voting demographics for midterms and presidential elections are very different.
     
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    Somewhere amidst this chaos, another poster so graciously provided a link to the Democratic Underground. Talk about wailing and gnashing of teeth; one might be so inclined to suspect that these people actually believe the end times are upon us - presumably because their "American values" are at risk...
     
  16. Dubious

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    Better, albeit evil and un-american, marketing.

    Starting at the beginning of the Obama administration the GOP and it's PACX billionaires set a strategy of obstruction and narrative creation that was followed and lock-step through the entire national party and their propaganda arm FAUX news. Obstruct and blame, obstruct and blame, they blocked legislation and appointment until they rendered the administration powerless all the while branding him as a dictator. They spent literally billions of dollars on that one focused idea and we know in the US if you create a national image you can sell sugar water to a diabetic.

    The Democratic party has a couple of big faults that limit it's messaging effectiveness: 1. as the big tent party there are lots of competing interests that fight to be heard, That sends mixed messages so there there is no one definition of what the party stands for.
    2. Consequently the party rarely exercises unilateral power, like gerrymandering, because the opposing views within the party won't agree to it.

    The GOp is nationally and singularly organized. When talking points are issued by the leadership in the morning they are expressed the very same way at all levels including FAUX news and repeated to the point that they appear to be fact. If you own most of the politicians, news outlets and lobbyist you create reality.

    But the main reason is money. The 1% has the money and is willing to spend it to make more money. People will do things outside of their own interest if they are paid for it, they will say things they don't believe in if they get paid for it. You can pay a lawyer to advocate for anything, to make whatever arguments it takes to win the case.

    People without means can't do that at all. People with money and higher minded ideals are still resistant to do that and only have their humanistic guilt to motivate them instead of self-interest.

    GOP politics is not unlike robber barons creating monopolies. It the snow ball effect of making money and spending it without scruples to make more money. The only way to stop it it to organize the people in numbers to vote the public interest but they have to overcome both the false reality and the Pinkertons.
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    You want an oligarchy? good because you have one.
     
  17. Dubious

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    The timelines and commitments were set long before 2008. Don't be stupid.
     
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    The GOP

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    The Democratic Party

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  19. FV Santiago

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    Democrats do better when more of the low information voters show up. These voters vote for popularity contests and not on actual issues. The country does much better when responsible, informed voters participate in elections. It just so happens that these voters trend strongly Republican. It must say something about the Democratic "base" that they are relying on such fickle, disinterested voters who aren't even responsible enough to show up to vote. Thankfully, these voters stayed home yesterday and good solid men and women of character elected the Senate.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    So what criteria are these "solid men and women of character" basing their vote on? Is it based in how Wall Street is booming, or the unemployment rate has almost cut in half under this adminstration, or how the deficit is finally shrinking, or how gas prices are dropping, or how the show "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" doesn't have to broadcast the deaths of American troops every week at the end of their broadcast now?
     

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