Houston Man Pledges Allegiance to ISIS in Front of Cop

You did not make that statement, but you have used similar twisted stretches to make connections and try and smear and label others many times.

I've addressed some of them at the time, and I don't want to rehash it again.

 

I don't even know what that means.

 

This actually could have been an interesting thread, then certain people feel the need to make it all about ATW. Again. So ****ing tedious and predictable.

 

I love this post. I love how he had to think of something "unacceptable" and he came up with homosexuality.

I love that this is the "I am not a bigot" counter-post.

There's just so many things to love. 5 stars.

 

Meh, I think this thread ended when we found out the guy was crazy and rejected from multiple mosques.

 

I did not say it is unacceptable. You inferred that. This says more about you than it says about me.

Plus, it was a reference to a thread you obviously don't know about.

 

Thank you - I was going to take a timeout and not respond, would have been happy to just read and not post, but it's just so annoying when someone just makes up crap and pretends that this was actually said by me. Basically a complete lie.

 

Real Question: Should FranchiseBlade be suspended or at least controlled somehow?

 

And since FranchiseBlade resorted to spreading lies and making up crap, here is my actual opinion on this (which I would have otherwise not posted):

The guy seems like an attention w**** more than anything. This is actually positive PR for the mosques, and you would have to wonder why it was being filmed and published if not to make positive PR for the mosques, but I don't know that.

The guy just seems crazy. There are many reasons to be worried about radical Islam, and crazies using it as a projection for their craziness is one of them, but this is not a reason to "tie anyone else who's ever been to the mosque as being a radical Islam supporter", especially since the guy got kicked out. The insinuation is not even logical in itself, but that is not surprising. It's FranchiseBlade we are talking about here.

 

You. Have. Made. Statements. That. Make. Us. Think. That. You. Believe. Such. Things.

It certainly could be a problem with the perception that many, many people have of you. But it is quite a lot of people who seem to think that you detest Muslims. We believe that because of your behavior on this board. It isn't all on us.

 

No, the cop out is ATW claiming that he didn't make the verbatim statement that FB posted while ignoring his own behavior which has convinced many that he believes such things. It isn't like we just spontaneously developed this opinion of ATW, these opinions have been influenced by his posting history.

 

FranchiseBlade is a very good poster on this forum. He is willing to at a minimum consider both sides of an argument unlike many others on both sides of the political spectrum that post in the D&D.

 

I am not very concerned with what you and FranchiseBlade believe. What I don't like is if people like you and FranchiseBlade put words in my mouth, because other people might read these lies and believe that I actually said that. In fact, that is something that has been happening here over the years. E.g., I have said a gazillion times that I have no problem with Muslims using their religion as a spiritual help. What I have a problem with are the elements of intolerance that are prevalent in the religious ideology of political Islam, and with the manifestations of said intolerance.

I understand that you and FranchiseBlade are either intellectually unable to understand the difference between criticizing an ideology and blanket hate against people, or you are both disingenuous enough to constantly try and perpetuate the myth that I propose the latter (probably a mix of both) - but I will protest when you fabricate lies.

Sometimes, yes. But sometimes, he just makes up stuff and avoids being honest, even though he knows better. GladiatoRowdy is just dense and doesn't get it. FranchiseBlade should know better.

 

If you couched your comments in terms of "radical Islam," or extremest elements within the religion, you might get a different response.

You don't, you seem to paint with the broadest possible brush, as you did in that poll thread. Then, you wonder why you're seen as an anti-Muslim bigot.

 

ROFL at the insult, I'll be happy to engage with you in any battle of wits you'd care to propose. I know you'll run away.

 

Sure. How about we continue the argument in German.

 

I have stated what I actually think.

Yet, you choose to believe what you think I think.

Everyone can see it.

In that poll thread, I was not painting with a broad brush at all. I was presenting actual data from a renowned research institute, with actual answers by Muslim. Just because it does not confirm your wrong assumptions does not make it a "broad brush".

As to radical Islam vs. just Islam:

Once again:

If someone thinks that apostates should be killed and that adulterers should be stoned, I consider that "radical".

You don't?

 

How about Mandarin?

 

I vote Klingon.

 

If a great many of those same people said that there should be "religious tolerance" in the very same poll, I think that someone effed up on the translations and the poll isn't particularly valid. I also think that, even if I give you every single inch of what you claimed in that thread, you're still talking about a grand total of 1/6 of the members of that religion.

I do believe that people who think others should be stoned (in the Biblical sense) for leaving Islam could be considered "radical," I completely disagree with you that the number of people who actually believe that nonsense is minuscule.