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Terrence Jones

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Realjad, Oct 22, 2014.

  1. TheFreak

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    I was more impressed by Brandon Bass. Sucks to think we could have had him AND Courtney Lee plus a pick for Asik. We could have had a ring with that haul. But no, had to chase Carmelo. :rolleyes:
     
  2. SC1211

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    Wait, this is sarcastic right?

    This trade would have prevented us from getting Ariza.

    Asik = NO Pick + Ariza (cap space) + Jason Terry (Through Gee) + 2nd round picks.


    This is a joke, right?
     
  3. Htownballer38

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    Well you must hate every that plays sports . Better yet every business have its inconsistent days as well. Lol

    man Jones is playing his role. He played a very good game tonight. How about we give this man props for having a great game.
     
  4. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    No, we got Ariza through the S&T. We could have pulled Ariza off with Lin Dump.
     
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  5. Realjad

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    Im more so talking effort level

    his effort is inconsistent

    P Bev isnt always going to have a steller defensive night but you know his defensive prowess and effort level for it will be consistent


    you know.. the same reason Hardens defense was ragged on last year- he had the talent for it but his effort level for it wasnt always there... Thats Terrence Jones entire game and career in a nutshell

    he shows amazing flashes showing he has some unique and rare talents to just decide to be lazy and go into lala land for several outings before trying again

    thats what im getting at and its also why our four is the weakest link of the team

    Props to Jones for tonight and I want to see him succeed.. Im was sooo high on this guy for years- But if he decides to be inconsistant this year I say trade him for a PF inwhich we know what to expect out of him night in and night out... even if his talent isnt as good as Jones it would make the team better.. to have someone reliable at the four
     
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  6. Htownballer38

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    You are impressed with 8 points and 5 rebounds. You are over thinking it bud. Championship

    yeah we are being sarcastic for show. Lol
     
  7. Htownballer38

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    Hmm that weakest link can get you 20 and 10. But his role on this isn't design for that because of Harden and Howard being the main scores.

    But I get what you are saying. He do have bring it on a consistent effort, especially against elite bigs.
     
  8. crash5179

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    If you think all he does is put up stats against bad teams you didn't watch the Rockets very much last season.

    When judging Terrence Jones production against opposing Power Forwards, regardless of who the Power Forward is, its important to remember that Terrence Jones was the 4th option on offense last season. When he went up against players like Dirk, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love or Zebo he was going up against the other teams 1st option. Additionally, a lot of those guys are hall of fame type of players, if we are really expecting Terrence or any other Power Forward to out play those guys are just unrealistic expectations. Furthermore, Terrence was just 21 years old in his 2nd season when he took over the starting job so he was hardly a finished product.

    Getting that out of the way, did he really only play well against bad players? Here is Terrence Jones stat line vs the following opponents:

    11/16/13 vs. Kenneth Farried and the Nuggets
    14 pts
    13 rebs
    3 blks

    11/17/13 vs Dirk and the Mavericks
    18 pts
    2 rebs

    11/23/13 vs Kevin Love and the Twolves
    18 pts
    10 pts
    2 blks

    11/27/13 vs Paul Milsap and the Hawks
    14 pts
    6 rebs
    1 blk

    11/30/13 vs Tim Duncan and the Spurs
    10 pts
    16 rebs

    12/6/13 vs David Lee and the Warriors
    16 pts
    10 rebs
    3 blks
    3 stls

    12/25/13 vs Tim Duncan and the Spurs
    21 pts
    14 rebs
    3 blks

    12/26/13 vs Zach Randolph and the Grizzlies
    20pts
    5 rebs
    2 blks

    12/28/13 vs Anthony Davis and the Pelicans
    17 pts
    8 rebs
    3 blks

    1/11/14 vs Nene and the Wizards
    19 pts
    17 rebs
    3 blks

    1/15/14 vs Anthony Davis and the Hornets
    25 pts
    8 rebs
    6 blks

    1/16/14 vs Serge Ibalka and the Thunder
    16 pts
    13 rebs
    1 blk
    2 stl

    1/28/14 vs Tim Duncan and the Spurs
    21 pts
    9 rebs
    1 blk

    1/29/14 vs Dirk and the Mavs
    16 pts
    5 rebs

    3/1/14 vs Greg Monroe and the Pistons
    22 pts
    10 rebs
    1 blk

    3/4/14 vs Chris Bosh and the Heat
    19 pts
    12 rebs
    1 blk

    4/4/14 vs Serge Ibalka and the Thunder
    16 pts
    11 rebs
    2 blks
    2 stls

    4/14/14 vs Tim Duncan and the Spurs
    20 pts
    11 rebs
    2 stls

    That’s a lot of games against a lot of very high quality Power Forwards where Terrence Jones made significant contributions. In a lot of those games Terrence absolutely out played his opponent and in many of them his opponent was better. It is not a realistic expectation to think Terrence or any Power Forward we could acquire could do better. As a 2nd year player 1st season starter, Terrence was certainly not ready for the play-offs. As a 21 or 22 year old he simply was not strong enough against many of the Power Forwards. But to say Terrence Jones never played well against good power forwards is nothing but pure fiction.

    Has Terrence taken a step forward from last season? We will not know for sure until the season progresses and he has had a chance to go up against the better Power Forwards of the league. But stop with the misinformation that Terrence only played well against bad Power Forwards.
     
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  9. Realjad

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    Come on man.. I can go into the Archive to pull out some crazy statistics on Lin last year- doesn't mean he was a big plus for our team.

    I don't think the Rockets need 20 and 10 every single night and i dont expect that- they need him more so to show overall court awareness.. not slack around every other night like you just woke up falling over your own feet, taking plays off,
    letting balls fly by hyou, taking bad shots when its not falling when other teammates are open and then getting blitzed by effort alone by opposing players. Just be a consistent roleplayer, keep hands straight up on D, run your sets, put effort into those loose balls-let the game come to you and fulfill your role

    Im critical of Jones because Jones shows to have 1000x the potential that D-Mo has- if you take Jones talent and D-Mo's work ethic- combine them into 1 then you would have a superstar theres no reason for him not to put that effort in

    Infact the only thing i truly think holding Jones back from being a star in the league is reliability and consistency- him bringing effort night in and out

    the scary thing is that is hard to develop or teach- you either have that ethic or you dont and ive seen many players with some amazing potential flutter out because of that- my only hope is Jones is young but if he doesnt show it this year then I would trade him while his stock is high for a quality and reliable PF
     
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  10. Gimmmethemike

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    Let his dumb ass know what's up! Good post!!
     
  11. awc713

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    what was his statline vs. homeless guys?

    Just kidding. Some fans do seem forget that TJ is young. Not every player is polished at age 21-22.

    I could see TJ as a top 7 PF in two years. Fringe all-star, solid player.

    His ups and downs are noted, and he needs to become more consistent for my above prediction to come true. Despite my disdain for his iso-mode, I think he has a long, productive career ahead of him.
     
  12. Aleron

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    1 stomp, 0 convictions
     
  13. Spacemoth

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    selling TJones short again; how do you know it was just 1 stomp?
     
  14. DrNuegebauer

    DrNuegebauer Member

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    So unless he is an all star at 22, you hate him.

    Methinks you are the definition of moron?
     
  15. spdngyns69

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    Jones is a keeper. This is one guy Doral menthol smooth Morey better hang onto. He is making leaps and bounds every year. Need to give him a chance to develop before giving up on him. Tjones is still very young but is already showing plenty of maturity. He is inconsistent at times like for example tonight in the second half against Boston but, that just goes along with his inexperience due to being young. I'm pretty sure he will stomp out all of his inefficiencies as he grows older.
     
  16. daywalker02

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    Those who believe in Dmo or a veteran PF do feel the urge to hate on Terrence for strange reasons.

    Not everyone but there are tons of them. Morey is the guy who has preferred other POSITIONS over PF.

    If you want to blame someone for the PF situation in nearly 20 years then it is management who preferred C, SFs over PFs.

    I really do not blame them but the PF situation could have been much better if we focused on it earlier, before Yao Ming's era came about.
     
  17. hlmbasketball

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    This!:p
     
  18. hlmbasketball

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    And Oh yeah.....he's 22!! He's doing good.
     
  19. Voice of Aus

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    TJ currently has a per that would of had him 7th last year
     
  20. stevel

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    Excellent post! Way to come with actual facts vs conjecture.
     

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