Noooooooo, not again. The only thing lethal about the possibility is how many points Griffin, Aldridge, Randolph, Davis and every other 4 in the west is going to score on our sissy boy stretch 4. We lose games because other team's 4's kill us, not because we need more points.
_asketballhollic thats your opinion and I don't agree just like I don't agree with you saying Rubio is the best PG of his generation or that Canaan is better than Jeremy Lin "right now" or any other ridiculous call you've made. Your 3 ball 4 man theory is also old as well.
We already have sissy boy 4's getting killed against monsters like you mentioned. Rubio's contract and the possibility of him playing for the qualifying offer could allow us the ability to sign one of them moster 4's so we don't have sissy 4's any longer.
Once again a correction. I did not say Rubio is the best PG of his generation. What I said was I think he will wind up the best PG of his generation. Get your facts straight, _ump shooter or you'll just be _ump distorter. I did say Canaan is better than Jeremy Lin "right now" and I meant that. He is. The 3-ball 4-man theory is soooooo ooooooold that any team in the league that doens't have one is trying to get one. It's soooooo oooooold that Dwight took one of those sissy boy stretch-4 guys to the Finals.
This is well done. It is telling that basketballoholic didn't respond to the actual data, which conflicts directly with his fact-free assertions. Also, it is telling when anyone thinks that removing an initial from someone's name (_ones, Har_en) is clever, interesting or reflects poorly on anyone other than the poster himself.
I've already responded to this over and over last season. Those games against San Antonio were all played with the Spurs short bigs. We swept San Antonio in the regular season. Do you think we could have beaten them one game in the playoffs? Memphis also was without Marc Gasol for much of the season. Those games were an aberration. When you take all the games where our bigs and Harden, Parsons, and Lin were healthy playing against legit playoff teams in the WC when they were healthy, you will see that Terrence's numbers went down drastically. And really.............why waste the time? We seen a 7-game series where Terrence was totally obliterated. McHale had to bench him for Asik just to have a chance of defending LaMarcus and Lopez. We're talking Robin Lopez here. Terrence could not match up against either player. Even Lopez with his garbage offensive game. And he couldn't hit the _ump shot so the paint was a total scrum with Portland outsizing and outbanging us the whole series. By the way, jedicro's numbers are off. Terrence played 25 games against WC playoff teams. He averaged a little over 10 points per game and 6.24 rebounds, while shooting 50.4% from the field, 12.5% from 3, and 59.6% from the FT line. That's including all his monster games against the dinged Spurs and Griz. If you toss those games out, his numbers against the healthy WC playoff teams was pathetic.
The first 2, the ones in San Antonio, they had 1 player missing from 1 game and no players missing from the other (we had one player, bev missing from one, and no one from the other), the games back in Houston both teams had multiple people out and the games just sucked as spectacles compared to the first two. The Spurs are a good opponent for Terrence because whilst their basketball skill is off the charts, their athleticism is pretty low for a WC team so he got to actually use it against them, which is basically San Antonio's weakness, athleticism, Ibaka's injury (missing games and the limitations he was suffering) was really the only reason they beat OKC, a fully healthy Ibaka and OKC win 4-1.
I will say it again. Portland is not a 4th or 5th seed team in the long room. Yes, they have interesting players but the West is tough. They are a 6th-7th playoff team. Should I be worried about Lill, Batum or Aldridge? Not really. When rebounding and defense is there we will crush them.
Great athlete , has some skills ..... But have you ever noticed how the offense grinds to a halt when he is on the floor and Harden or Howard isn't going off?? Sure he grabs a few rebounds & gets his points thru the course of the game , but her doesn't do the little things that help a team win. He doesn't defend or box out particularly well , doesn't screen well , cant pick & pop and in general is a non-factor on offense outside of putbacks. He is frustrating to watch because he has several strong skills .... Just doesn't make good decisions or do the little things that help a team win.
Terrence is a pretty big plus statistically for his teammates fg% etc etc. He is the only player to feature in all 20 of the Rockets best floor time units last season. It is not a stretch to suggest that people (like you perhaps?) are only seeing what they want, rather than what is happening.
I actually did make a mistake. For whatever reason I missed all the Clipper games in which he didn't play particularly well. That brings the total up to 22 games. That makes his averages: 11.5 PTS, 7 REB, 29.3 MIN That's only 22 games. Why not 25? Because I didn't include the 3 games at the beginning of the year where he wasn't starting and averaged 3 minutes/game. The fact that you did include them without mentioning his limited role in those games tells me all I need to know about your intellectual honesty. My conclusion is the same. He had monster games against good front courts, and he had bad games against bad ones. For what was basically a first year year player forced into the starting lineup, that is entirely expected. To reiterate my thoughts on TJones again. I doubt he's the long term answer at PF. However I think dismissing him as a bad player is incredibly short sighted. He has shown major potential and has been extremely effective in spurts. If those spurts can become a little more regular he will be a really, really good player.
In all honesty, Tjones is just a consistent jumper away from being pretty damn good. His Defense is what it is but a good jumper would make up for it I think.
but isn't the article that you posted about Mchale and players that have been in the league for 3 years true?
I think it mostly is. But Terrence is getting the benefit of the doubt because he "didn't play his rookie season". So "this is really only his second season". Well, Rubio was inured his rookie season and has only played a little over 2 seasons worth of games. So if we're gonna give Terrence the benefit of the doubt because he hasn't played enough games....gotta give Rubio the same benefit of the doubt. See, I can play all those silly games you want to play.
Saying that Rubio is going to end up being "The best PG of his generation" is pretty much the exact same thing as saying he's going to be a superstar. Get your facts straight _asket_allahollic Generation: a group of people born and living during the same time Rubio - 24 Current PG's under 27 and older than 22 -Teague - 26 -Walker-24 -Rose - 26 -Irving - 22 -Wall - 24 -Lawson -26 -Curry -26 -Conley - 27 -J. Holiday - 24 -Westbrook - 25 -Bledsoe -24 -Lillard - 24 Saying that Ricky Rubio might be, or making a bold claim that he WILL BE the best PG of this generation has to be one of the dumbest things even BasketballHollic has said & tried to fight tooth and nail over. He gets angry at you if you say that he claims Rubio will be a superstar, but then backs his claim by saying that he said "best PG of his generation". Honestly, its probably more likely that Rubio becomes a bonified superstar than the case that he is the best PG of this generation. I really do like Ricky Rubio, but AT BEST, he's about the 20th best PG in the league. And no he is NOT elite defensively. Getting Steals /= to being a good defender. Just go ask Pat Beverley about Rubio last year as Pat had some of his best offensive games last year vs the Wolves.
Way too much focus is on Jones offense. His biggest problem by far is on defense. He can't keep anyone with any talent from getting easy shots in the paint. Kanter was just killing him early on last night.
nitpicking..killing is probably not the word for kanter last night. he got a bucket or two but definitely didn't "kill". now if you really want to talk about killing..it was burke killing beverly last night. if you're going to point out kanter, hold everyone else on the team to the same standards
Oh, I see. In a thread about Terrence Jones, if I talk about Terrence, I'm supposed to also mention what every other player did. If you want to start another thread about Beverley's bad defense, go right ahead. Kanter got three easy baskets in the first 7 minutes against Jones. Jones offered no resistance. We're talking about Enes Kanter here. A guy who couldn't manage to start half the games for a 25 win Utah team last season. Btw, you forgot to mention Harden's poor shooting night while you were busy nitpicking Beverley.
