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ESPN 2014 NBA Player Rankings

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by CantGoLeft, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. glimmertwins

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    The irony here is any team in a vacuum to build a team would take Howard over Love or Harden over Curry. Situationally I see how you could choose let's say Love over Howard on Lebron's team but for instance GS was flirting with trading for Love. Had Howard been available, wouldn't they have preferred him and maybe even thrown In Klay Thompson? I think so....
     
  2. slestack11

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    The Rockets got Harden because the Thunder had a hard time moving him with his salary demands. For example, the Thunder offered Harden for Klay Thompson and the Warriors declined. Part of it is due to money, but I would think that, if the Warriors prefer Klay Thompson over James Harden, that they would also prefer Steph Curry over him as well.

    In the 80's, it was customary to build a team around a center, but it seems that, in todays game, the center just gets in the way. Deandre Jordan's role on the Clippers seems to be where centers are moving. Anchor the defense, protect the rim, and limit offense to blown defenses and put backs. So that said, I'd rather build my team around Kevin Love than Dwight Howard.
     
  3. J Sizzle

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    LMAO!

    "I'd rather build my team around the dude who's never made the playoffs in 6 years than the guy who's carried a team to the Finals"

    slestack11...we get it...you don't like the Rockets and think they suck, but at least try to make your trolling efforts somewhat respectable.
     
  4. slestack11

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    Popovich doesn't usually want anyone on his team that only plays one end of the floor. Everyone that is on the Spurs is expected to contribute on offense and defense.
     
  5. slestack11

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    I don't see why it's trolling if I don't think Harden and Howard are the two best players in the league. I'm just making objective opinions which, like everyone's else, are just opinions. Even when ESPN makes their rankings, they are just opinions. Love has a lot of talent and can put up huge numbers...it's not his fault that he has never been on a team with enough talent to compete in a tough Western Conference. Howard had more talent around him in Orlando than people gave credit for and he made the Finals in a year where the Eastern Conference was pretty weak. If I remember correctly, those Magic were quickly disposed of by the Lakers in the Finals.
     
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    Thompson will never lead a team to the playoffs in the West as a first option like Harden did couple of years ago. Harden is much better player than Klay, its not even close.

    As for Curry, its closer but Harden is better Klay n Curry are just better shooters than Harden n thats it
     
  7. batkins

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    Oh. I guess I just don't like the format they're using. I'd rather the top 10 BE the top 10. Whoever is #2 isn't going to be the real #2 so what's the point. Durant's going to miss 20 games I understand that, but LeBron/CP3 could potentially get hurt and miss 20 games sometime during the season too. Unexpected injuries happen way too often to let them affect player rankings. If a player is injury prone like Wade I can understand that, but Durant is very far from that. I just feel like they kind of wasted the rankings by doing it this way. Even with the way they're looking at it though, I'd still rather have Durant 62 games then Love for 82.
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>KD weighs in on his <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBArank?src=hash">#NBArank</a>: <a href="http://t.co/jo1xJHMwcJ">pic.twitter.com/jo1xJHMwcJ</a></p>&mdash; Royce Young (@royceyoung) <a href="https://twitter.com/royceyoung/status/526136160893300737">October 25, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  9. Aleron

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    KD got his mega nike deal, he doesn't need to placate the bull**** anymore, haha
     
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    He was at 6 last year too. I personally think Harden has a more complete, well rounded offensive game than Curry. Both of their defenses are mediocre to poor.
     
  11. PhatPharaoh

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    yep I agree, although Curry is a better facilitator IMO, but harden has much more defensive potential, and if he is able to keep up his preseason defensive effort, I really could see him in the top 3-5 (he was already a top 5 MVP vote getter last season as well, even with the bad defense).
     
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  14. daywalker02

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    Chris 2nd best, Davis 3rd best

    Tons to prove this season
     
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    I think I've said this before here already, but if Davis is truly a top 3 player, then the Pelicans have to make the playoffs. If they are relatively healthy and miss the playoffs he ain't no top 3 player... yet.
     
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    Not necessarily. Kobe/TMac in their primes had teams that failed to make the playoffs.

    And if you look at the Hornets' roster, they're very disjointed.

    If he has them in playoff contention, that should solidify his status as a top 5 player.
     
  17. mfastx

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    The Hornets current roster is pretty stacked

    Holiday
    Gordon
    Evans
    Davis
    Asik

    with Ryan Anderson coming off the bench. No way they miss the playoffs if Davis is the third best player in the freaking league.

    I personally think Davis will be top 10 this season but not top 5 or 3.
     
  18. t_mac1

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    That's a very disjointed roster. All those guards you mentioned want the ball, don't like to create, aren't efficient, and don't play D. Plus, they're all young.

    If they buy into Davis being the go-to guy, they will do well. But Evans/Gordon wants theirs. Let's hope those 2 specific guys get their act together for the benefit of the team.
     
  19. peleincubus

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    Davis Westbrook curry love and griffin all pass harden up this season.

    Hmmm
     
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    Westbrook, Love, and Griffin were ahead of Harden two seasons ago so you can argue they mistakenly moved Harden past them last year. Players on these rankings tend to go up and down because ESPN writers like to mix things up every year. Besides Lebron, Durant, and CP3 who seem to be fixtures at the top 3, the rest are all mixed up every year.
     

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