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Who Gets Cut?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Moonscope, Oct 9, 2014.

  1. vator

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    There is nothing that can be accomplished by sending Canaan back to the D-League. He dominates thoroughly there. He needs to learn on the big stage now with the big club. That is where his game will either take the next step forward or not. He does whatever he wants down there just like Jones and D. Mo did when they were there.
     
  2. danoman

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    If Kostas papanikolaou has been tried at the power forward my guess is Adrien gets cut.
     
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  3. NL Rocket

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    You guys are something else, Feigen is basically saying no way to Cisco getting cut and still suggestions are made to the contrary...
     
  4. saleem

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    We know that, we are just commenting on what should be done.
     
  5. cdrive

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    Yeah Garcia couldn't have frustrated me more last year. Good riddance. I was not very happy with him being picked up again. That was at first. Then I saw some of his FIBA action and I'm convinced he's on a pre-injury Garcia level again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV6QymsdNFE

    We are really light on SFs that are quick enough to slide down to the 2. Or 2s tall enough to slide up to SF. Also our bench is light on NBA vets who already know how to correctly do their part in transition offense & defense, cutting, back screens, filling lanes, not getting lost on switches and help D. Garcia is bulletproof. The guy is 32, not 37. It's Guards and Bigs they need to cull.
     
  6. NL Rocket

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    Thank you! Also, with consistent minutes I'm sure Garcia can show some of that FIBA type play. These meaningless pre-season he's received are bull****.
     
  7. benchmoochie

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    I think with the addition of Terry (if he stays), kpap, and Daniels, Garcia can go back to a situational player. I doubt he would be starting at the 2 or 3 for injury reasons with other options available. The season is long; it's important to have a lot of depth. You don't want to throw some NBADL player out there if the wing positions are decimated for whatever reason.
     
  8. Buzzlite

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    Cutting Adrien would be a huge mistake...Dude is one of the toughest guys on the roster and makes the hustle plays that were abscent from our team in the past...He'd show his worth somewhere else like he did last year in Milwuake, I feel like he was a steal this offseason and he deserves a spot on our roster
     
  9. Firebomb525

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    Definitely want to hold onto Adrien.

    Can't we cut black but keep him under our wing on the RGV?
     
  10. NL Rocket

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    It's clear Ish & Dorsey have to go, never understood why they got guaranteed money in the 1st place..it's time for Leslie to show he does not care about that, but about the quality of players. Anybody can see the last spots deserve to go to Adrien & Black.
     
  11. saleem

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    He can be sent to the RGV, but any other team can pick him up.
     
  12. AXG

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    This! Count the losses and move on.
     
  13. benchmoochie

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    I think the move of dorsey was made to acquire cheap serviceable talent. The only way they could get him to come over was guaranteed money probably.

    I also think their plan was to put Black in the DLeague originally, but his play of late is making them consider putting him with the big club.

    Hopefully this is the year they just keep the top 15 players on the roster rather than choosing someone less qualified because of a guaranteed contract. In this case Dorsey's guarantee isn't that large.
     
  14. Firebomb525

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    It'd suck if Dorsey got cut due to him leaving a spot with the overseas team.

    Maybe a trade can help out this glut but I think Black gets cut.
     
  15. Mathloom

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    We probably should trade D-Mo for whatever we can get. Jones might develop. Black might develop. D-Mo has had his chance, and I think he deserves a chances somewhere else too. Adrien should definitely be a part of this team IMO.

    It just looks like a trade is inevitable at this point. I can't see us letting Adrien and Black walk after they've both impressed.
     
  16. benchmoochie

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    why not trade jones for whatever we can get? i think jones and dmo are exchangeable in the right trade. Anyhow, some guy in the trade thread proposed we trade dmo, terry and the knicks second rounder for Brandon Bass. I would say no to that.
     
  17. Haymitch

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    Does anyone think Canaan has played better than Ish?
     
  18. sirbaihu

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    Ish is who we need this year. Canaan is a better long-term value. We don't need Canaan's scoring like we need Ish's distributing.
     
  19. dobro1229

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    Well depends on what you are judging them both on. Neither are world beaters and both have major flaws.

    The one thing I'm really looking at is role & fit. Canaan has the talent and skill set to both space the floor playing off of the ball with the starting core, and can provide an offensive spark sometimes off the bench. IMO, his development means more to the teams overall success than the 2 or 3 plays more Ish facilitates correctly over the mistakes Canaan might be making currently.

    Ish is more solid as a backup PG who can push the ball in transition, play solid D, and run the offense correctly. However that doesn't mean he's been good or is going to make the team better. He's just done what the coaches asked of him better.

    If I'm Morey, Im a bit concerned that if you leave Ish on the roster, McHale will not do his part to play the player that NEEDS to be taking that step forward to make the team better, and will stick with his "Comfort foods" so to speak.

    Adelman was really really bad about "comfort food" players he'd play over the guys that were younger, weren't as coachable, but needed to play to get better to make the team better. McHale hasn't really had much of a choice up until this year.

    I think Ish is better at doing what needs to be done to earn a spot in the rotation, but I think Canaan needs to be given the minutes in order to make the team better by the end of the season by having a more talented offensive player coming off the bench when you need points in the rough parts of the season.
     
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    While I agree with this to some extent, I also think there's another side to that coin. What if Canaan doesn't become that better offensive player that you're anticipating? If this is the best we're ever going to see out of Canaan, then a contending team like Houston would benefit more from keeping Ish.

    That being said, I think the difference between Ish and Canaan is negligible in terms of overall talent at this point. And if Morey and the front office feel like there's a lot of untapped potential there, then Canaan needs to be the guy.
     

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