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[2014-15] Chandler Parsons as a Dallas Maverick

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by TheRealist137, Jul 13, 2014.

  1. Mr. Clutch

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    Neither is Dallas
     
  2. Remii

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    Looks good... I wonder if his defense has improved.

    What does that matter. Dallas may not run a gang of isolation plays like the Rockets so that may not be a huge issue.
     
  3. yaoishung7575

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    I hope you're wrong.You don't know how this team will mesh and you don't even know what's going to happen at the deadline. None of us do.
     
  4. yaoishung7575

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    Parsons is a young, white T-Mac now? Seriously?

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  5. haydenfisher342

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    Agreed im starting to see a trend. is it houston is unable to keep great players. or is houston making average players become/ look great? I miss the chuckwagon, so much fun to watch him play
     
  6. Liberon

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    Dwayne Johnson is definitely a 'glorified' Rob Schneider...
     
  7. Liberon

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    Trust me, unless McHale isn't coach anymore, @$$hole policy and attitude on behalf of Dwight and James will continue to transpire.
     
  8. yaoishung7575

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    Take that back.
     
  9. Carl Herrera

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    The issue is that whether or not you plan on running isolation plays, it is still important to have a guy who can create out of these isolation situations.

    There are only 24 seconds on the shot clock and NBA professionals are skilled and experienced enough on defense that and no matter what offensive system you run, you are going to end up with many possessions where you need a player to just create a shot for himself or teammates with his individual skills.
    Even a pass-happy team like Adelman's early 2000s had to have guys who were good at winning individual matchups and scrambling the defense.

    This is not to say that the guys who score baskets off cuts and passes are not valuable, just that if two guys each score, say, 17 points a game with an ORtg of 109, the guy who scores a higher % of his basket without an assist is generally more impactful because he is a guy who is likely converting a number of possessions where there are 5 seconds on the clock with the defense still not broken down into points.

    As for Parsons, he is valuable-- and Morey also thinks that Parsons is worth a substantial salary, tool. Parsons just isn't as impactful as a guy like Goran Dragic who is capable of generating his own opportunities.
     
  10. swyyyguy

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    i agree that the rockets will make no noise come playoff time, especially with kevin mchale as the coach.
     
  11. RV6

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    Carl has a point.

    Chandler's great at picking his spots within an offense that likes to move, but what happens when the game slows down? What happens when they look to him to make something happen in the half court?

    I've been saying for over a year he should have developed a hook in the post. It would have been a good start for him. He has no post moves, no perimeter isolation moves. His whole advantage comes from using a defender's momentum against himself and using his length. That's very smart of him, but it doesn't make him a franchise player and/or a max guy. It makes him a Shawn Marion.
     
  12. B-Bob

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    He will use his new weight and girth kind of like Shaq used to do, in the post. You'll see.
     
  13. kakaman

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    Kawhi Leonard doesn't have one on one abilities either and he won MVP. I feel like an elite first step is not as important at the SF position. Parsons can get by his man, just through more creative means. For some reason Cleveland always bit at his pump fake, which allowed him to drive to the rim. Also, he bulked up so expect to see him more in the post.

    [youtube]Mp8BhA8khvI[/youtube]

    at 1:00

    Also, Parsons is really good at the PnR and you can expect him playing a two man game with Dirk which will be lethal. Houston never had a stretch 4 like that which will open up a lot of possibilities.

    The video I posted is a pretty in depth look at Parsons' offensive arsenal. I feel like people don't give him enough credit because he's white and skinny, but he already has a variety of moves, probably further along than PG imo.
     
  14. jordnnnn

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    I don't see what Leonard winning finals MVP on a stacked team, in a perfect team system has to do with Parsons and his situation on the Mavs.

    I would argue the same with Leonard as I would with Parsons. Because they lack 1 on 1 abilities their ceiling is not as high as the best players in the league. They are both very good players, but in my opinion can never be more than 3rd best guys on a team until they show more offensive diversity. You have to be able to break down your man, drive the lane and get to the line consistently. Leonard and Parsons aren't those guys. They rely too much on others to get their shots. Pluck Leonard off SA and throw him on Philly and give him the MCW treatment and I bet he doesn't look anything like the SA Leonard.

    And George is easily already better and will continue to be better than either Leonard or Parsons.
     
  15. Remii

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    They have Monta Ellis for those situations. And I'm sure there are several players that Parsons can get by. It's not like there's a gang of lock down defenders in the NBA.

    Maybe Parsons is now in a system he can thrive in... We can hate on Dallas all we want but they have a very good head coach.
     
  16. jordnnnn

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    I would be shocked if his numbers and impact are anything more than a slight up tick from his time in Houston.

    People act like some of these games he's had in the preseason are leaps and bounds better than anything he showed here and that this system is affording him the opportunity to do so much more than here, when that's not even close to the case.
     
  17. Exiled

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    I 've said it before, his ### nearly identical to Scottie Pippin in their 1st 3 years.

    But the difference now that in Dallas the system 'll be built for him to flourish
     
  18. shastarocket

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    Parsons wanted a bigger role. What does that exactly mean?

    More shots?
    More iso?
    More offense running through him?

    It sound like some of you guys expect more of the same that we gave him except in a more efficient offense. That's fair because Carlisle deserves that respect. But that still doesn't mean Parsons becomes a $15 million man.

    He just becomes a system player.

    That's fantastic for what we were paying him and fine for what we are paying Ariza. Not so much at his current salary.
     
  19. BMoney

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    What a specious comparison. Scottie Pippen was one of the greatest defensive wing players of all time, but it took him several years to find his footing offensively.
     
  20. Remii

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    Well that would be good for Dallas if his numbers were a slight up tick from his time in Houston. It's not like he was garbage here. He was a good player for us and he may be for them as well.

    And he probably has improved since last season. He's been improving (offensively) every year since he's been in the NBA so it's not outside of the realm of possibility that he's gotten better.

    I just wish Morey would have traded him and got something for him.
     

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