Sources: Coaches frustrated w/Clowney, some Players say he's a diva

The player tells the surgeon their preference beforehand, especially in situations where there can be potential long term consequences of one option vs the other. The only way they would have done a meniscectomy when the preference was a repair is if the tear was so small it would make a repair difficult or impossible. Also, I guess you are just completely dismissing that RAC said that Clowney will practice when the trainers let him....

I mean, if you are willing to ignore evidence to the contrary, then you can make a case that it's Clowney keeping himself out of practice rather than the trainers doing so, but if you're willing to do that you can make pretty much any case you want.

 

He practiced. Therefore the trainers let him practice. Therefore that quote is dated and irrelevant.

You thinking Clowney compromised his future is delusional and contrary to everything we know about him and the Texans. I like Clowney, I think this is his first knee surgery and he is scared. You are defending him in weird ways.

 

The trainers let him practice Friday, they didn't let him practice Thursday....that's the whole point. I don't understand how you're not getting this.

 

I'm saying a rookie who has been out for over a month should not be a game time decision when he hasn't gotten any full practice time in. So what if he's medically cleared _ he hasn't been practicing...

I don't think Jayson Braddock is just making stuff up though.

 

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/10/clowney-optimistic-but-unsure-about-return-date/

The absence has Clowney hungry to return to the field. His teammates and coaches have cautioned him about coming back too soon.
“I want to hit somebody. I (haven’t) hit somebody in a long time, about a month. I’m looking forward to that.”
The Texans defense could use his presence, but the Texans also have to protect their number one pick with an eye on the future.
“He wants to be back,” Bill O’Brien said “He’s working very hard to get back, but I think you have to be careful there bringing a guy back too early.”

 

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What players and coaches tell the media is not always the entire story. If that was the case I would believe that there are no issues with Jim Harbaugh and the 49ers.

 

No, Bill O'brien saying "he's a game time decision" means there's a chance he will play. Meaning he is still seeing how healthy he is. It does not mean he is rushing Clowney to play right away. If he did wanted Clowney to play he would have said he's ready to go. Ever since Clowney's injury Bill O'brien has been saying he wants Clowney to be full 100%. Yet, when a moron posts rumors like this, people will hop on the rumor and make a big deal out of itl. Do you realize morons like Jayson Braddock who post stuff like this is what they want? They want to start a drama between the player and the team because they want the team to ruin. Jayson Braddock is nothing but a hater and an attention seeking w****.

 

I dont think anybody on the coaching staff wants him to rush back... if he fails, they fail!

 

Meh. O'Brien would either call him out or just not say much at all about anything if there were problems. He wouldn't say he's working hard to get back etc.

 

What the hell do you think the coach would say publicly? That is coach speak. Even if Braddock's story is true, the coach isn't going to go call out his number 1 draft pick publicly.

 

The point is that if you look at everything that has been reported by reputable sources along with common sense, it points in one direction and then there is the "sources" of an unemployed sports writer/radio talking head saying the exact opposite....which is more likely? I think it's quite a stretch to believe that

A. The Texans coaching staff is r****ded and they want to rush Clowney back before he's ready

B. That Clowney, rather than the trainers, is the one making the call as to when he is available to practice.

C. That the other players on the team are r****ded and they want Clowney to rush back before he's ready.

Honestly, after the Howard mess a few years ago you'd think that we'd be past "sources" stories.



Don't get sucked in by a bootleg Chris Broussard.

 

Which means he wants him to play because you hardly ever hear coaches saying a player is a "game time decision" after he's been away with injury for over a month with no full practice time... That in a way is rushing Clowney back.

And Jayson Braddock is probably getting his information from a player(s) and or someone on the training staff. He's a respected guy and I seriously doubt he's just pulling this stuff out of his @$$... But that doesn't mean his sources are telling the truth though. But it seems O'Brien is talking up since Braddock's reports have came out.

 

No, because one of the articles I quoted from is dated October 10th. That's a week before Braddock said anything.

 

So you're saying Braddock is making all of this up and has talked to no one...?

But none of that changes the fact that they tagged Clowney as a "game time decision" when most players in this situation coaches consider not going to play or tag them as "questionable" at best.

Going out telling the public that he's a game time decision and saying he's letting Clowney decide is putting unnecessary pressure on Clowney and brings heat on him from the media.

 

There's zero difference between game-time decision and questionable. He's either probable, questionable, or out. He's been declared questionable.

Clowney listed as questionable for Monday

 

Thanks. I fixed it.

 

I've had miniscus surgery on both knees by 2 different doctors and they both advised very very aggressive returns to activity. You're walking on it within a week and back to full activity in a month. If they are annoyed with him it's because he is outside the average return time.

 

I agree. But I'm also inclined to believe that anonymous sources don't tell whole stories either. If I were to tell a friend about a co-worker at the company I work at, it probably is a little bit biased towards myself without even lying or having any agendas.

So without definitive understanding of the entire story, why naturally gravitate towards the point of view that's negative and less reliable?

 

It's a shame the fans won't give clowney the benefit of the doubt and/or a break. When he comes back and whoops some ass yall will be the first ones saying - " I always believed in u Clowney!! "